FROM THE GENERAL SUPERINTENDENT
From time to time, the General Council receives inquiries desiring comment on various revivals or ministries held in both Assemblies of God and non-Assemblies of God churches.
Rather than attempting to comment on any specific series of meetings, I feel it would be preferable to provide some Scriptural guidelines for assessment. I have great confidence in the maturity of Assemblies of God pastors and laity to make their own judgments and heed the admonition of the Apostle Paul: Do not put out the Spirit’s fire; do not treat prophecies with contempt. Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil (1 Thessalonians 5:19-22).
The Assemblies of God is irrevocably committed to the inspiration of Scripture, that the Bible provides the assessment tools needed for evaluating doctrine and experience, and is deeply hungry for the continued filling and empowerment of the Holy Spirit.
Our former general superintendent, Thomas F. Zimmerman, once compared the Holy Spirit to a mighty river, and the Scriptures to the banks of that river. Brother Zimmerman said that great harm occurs when the river overruns the banks, but that the river does great good when it stays within the banks.
Thus, it is well for us to look at the safeguards the Bible provides in helping us “test everything.” Here are the questions we should always ask.
1. Is Jesus Christ exalted? The purpose of the Holy Spirit is to testify about Christ; and to convict the world of sin, righteousness, and the judgment to come (John 15:26, 16:8). To the Corinthian church that had become overly enamored with charismatic manifestations, the Apostle Paul reminded them that “I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified” (1 Corinthians 2:2).
Thus, the focus for any lasting revival always must be on Jesus. The Holy Spirit has not come to glorify Himself, or any human or angelic personality.
2. Is the Word of God proclaimed? Every revival with lasting effect has always been rooted in the preaching of God’s Word. This is in keeping with the spread of the Gospel in the early Church as recorded in Acts.
- Following the first persecution, they “spoke the word of God boldly” (4:31).
- Following the second persecution and flogging, “day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped preaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Christ” (5:42).
- After the selection of deacons, “the word of God spread” (6:7).
- Resulting from Saul’s persecution of the church, “those who had been scattered preached the word wherever they went” (8:4).
- Samaria “accepted the word of God” (8:14).
- The Gentiles of Cornelius’ household “received the word of God” (11:1).
- Paul and Barnabas preached “the word of God” on their first missionary journey and “the word of God spread through the whole region” (13:46, 49).
- Before departing for their second missionary journey, Paul and Barnabas and many others “taught and preached the word of the Lord” at Antioch (15:35).
- The Holy Spirit kept Paul and Barnabas from “preaching the word in the province of Asia” (16:6).
- The Bereans “received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true” (17:11); Paul “was preaching the word of God at Berea” (17:13).
- At Corinth, “Paul stayed for a year and a half, teaching them the word of God” (18:11).
- Through Paul’s ministry at Ephesus, “all the Jews and Greeks who lived in the province of Asia heard the word of the Lord” (19:10).
- Paul’s farewell words to the Ephesians elders are: “For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God” (20:27).
It is clear from the above references that great focus was given in the early Church to the preaching of the Word, sometimes also identified as proclaiming the Gospel. This is consistent with the first commitment of the early Church following the day of Pentecost – “they devoted themselves to the apostles’ doctrine . . .” (Acts 2:42).
Thus, a doctrinal test for any revival is whether the content of the preaching is the same as Jesus and the apostles. The Word of God stands over personal viewpoints. Any Biblical revival must “contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints” (Jude 3). If so-called truth is being proclaimed that cannot be found in Scripture, then that proclamation violates the specific announcement of Scripture that the faith “was once for all entrusted” and such a proclamation also deviates from the apostles’ fidelity to preach the Word, and from the early Church’s devotion to the apostles’ doctrine.
The Azusa Revival (1906-1909) unabashedly proclaimed that the sure plumb line of truth was God’s revealed and written Word. Elder Seymour and others were criticized sharply for their insistence on “checking everything out with the Word.” But, they were unashamed. In fact, Seymour responded to these criticisms in the September, 1907, issue of The Apostolic Faith.
“We are measuring everything by the Word, every experience must measure up with the Bible. Some say that is going too far, but if we have lived too close to the Word, we will settle that with the Lord when we meet Him in the air.
Miraculous manifestations are never the test of a true revival – fidelity to God’s Word is the test. Jesus Himself said there would be many who would do miracles in His name and even cast out demons, but He does not know them (Matthew 7:15-23). Jesus warned that “many false prophets will appear and deceive many people” (Matthew 24:11). Paul warns, “If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, he is conceited and understands nothing” (1 Timothy 6:3). To the Galatians, Paul writes: “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned (Galatians 1:8). Paul also warns us: “Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. He has lost connections with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow” (Colossians 2:18-19). Peter warns us that “there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies . . . Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up.” (2 Peter 2:1-3).
In summary, the message must always be examined. If the message and the messenger line up with God’s Word, then the revival is on safe Biblical ground and it should and must be embraced. If not, then even though miracles and manifestations occur, it should be avoided.
This raises the question of how can healings and miracles occur if the message and/or messenger are not consistent with Scripture. The attribution for the healings and miracles is the grace of God and his mercy for hurting people.
3. Are persons repenting of sin, and being baptized in water and the Holy Spirit? Repentance has been called the first word of the Gospel because it is the initial response called for by John the Baptist (Matthew 3:2), Jesus (Matthew 4:17), the Twelve (Mark 6:12), Jesus after His resurrection (Luke 24:47), Peter (Acts 2:36), and Paul (Acts 26:20). With repentance comes baptism in water and the overwhelming or baptism in the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38-39).
Unless these initiatory events of the Christian life occur, along with the sanctifying work of the Spirit that leads to a holy life – then the miracles, crowds, and enthusiasm will quickly wane.
Of course, there are additional questions that can be raised, but my purpose is to give some starter reflections for those who have honest hearts to “test all things” as Paul admonished. If the above three questions cannot be answered with a resounding yes, then perhaps other questions are unnecessary.
The modern Pentecostal revival is now over 100 years old. Within that revival, there have been some significant centers of activity. For example, the Azusa Street Revival generated a missionary movement whose effects we still see today. The Charismatic Renewal brought refreshing both to Pentecostal and non-Pentecostal believers. However, there have also been some tornadoes that have brought destruction. In other words – there have been good winds and ill winds.
It is our responsibility to maintain a deep hunger for God and to keep our focus on the mission He has given us: to bring glory to God, to evangelize the lost, and to make disciples. We cannot do this on our own. We need the empowerment of the Holy Spirit along with the signs that follow those who believe.
Someone has said that revivals are like child birth. They are messy, but you like the final result. Certainly, every revival has been marked by some elements that would be regarded as extreme. Dr. J. Edwin Orr, who studied and wrote more on the history of revivals than any one else in Christian history, told me once that revivals are like a cabin on the Maine coast that has been shuttered up for the winter. When the winds begin to blow, the first thing that begins to make noise is all the loose hinges and shutters. And, that may well be the case – so we must be cautious at the initial onset of a revival to let some “loose hinges and shutters” have their freedom – but, ultimately, if the revival is to have enduring fruitfulness, it must be pastored carefully with doctrinal soundness, moral and financial accountability, and care to give publicity to Christ rather than to the revival.
The Azusa Street revival had such enduring fruitfulness precisely because the three questions raised above can be well answered – both then and now: Christ was exalted, the Word of God was the plumb line, and people responded to the Gospel with repentance, and baptism in water and in the Spirit. And, like the early Church, they were full of the Holy Spirit and went everywhere to share the Good News!
Let us keep the prayer of Habakkuk (3:2) in our hearts and on our lips:
LORD, I have heard of your fame;
I stand in awe of your deeds,
O LORD.
In our time make them known.
George O. Wood
The General Council of the Assemblies of God
Assemblies of God say Lakeland “should be avoided”?
I’m not sure if it is in direct response to our open letter, but I just received a note (thanks Karen) notifying me that just a few hours ago, the Assemblies of God posted an “Official Statement on Revival” . The link leads to a video of Dr. George O. Wood making comments which deal with “revival” in general. The “statement” never mentions Florida, Lakeland, Ignited Church or Todd Bentley, nor does it mention specific matters in relation to the “Florida Outpouring”.
I think this would be a good start if there is going to be some further direct statements concerning the “Florida Outpouring”. But if there will be no further statements, I would only call this a positive step to a wishy-washy objective. This statement gives no firm warning to the “sheep” to stay away from Lakeland, and to stay away from Todd Bentley and his posse of heretics
For now, I will have to take what I can get. Dr. Wood’s statement deals with the history of the Azusa Street Revival and he states: “the sure plumb line of truth was God’s revealed and written Word. Elder Seymour and others were criticized sharply for their insistence on “checking everything out with the Word.” But, they were unashamed.”
Dr. George Wood also states “The Word of God stands over personal viewpoints. Any Biblical revival must “contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints” (Jude 3). If so-called truth is being proclaimed that cannot be found in Scripture, then that proclamation violates the specific announcement of Scripture that the faith “was once for all entrusted” and such a proclamation also deviates from the apostles’ fidelity to preach the Word, and from the early Church’s devotion to the apostles’ doctrine.”
Dr. Wood continues; “Miraculous manifestations are never the test of a true revival – fidelity to God’s Word is the test.”
“In summary, the message must always be examined. If the message and the messenger line up with God’s Word, then the revival is on safe Biblical ground and it should and must be embraced. If not, then even though miracles and manifestations occur, it should be avoided.”
So according to Dr. Wood’s own statements, this “outpouring” in Lakeland, Florida is NOT on safe Biblical ground because it most assuredly DOES NOT “line up with God’s Word! Therefore, Dr. Wood implies that the “Florida Outpouring” and Todd Bentley “should be avoided.”
I wonder how Dr. Wood and the Assemblies of God national leadership will get this message to their flock??
I hate to be so pessimistic but I have a feeling that if Dr. Wood can’t bear to name names, then he must not want to turn his pastors and congregations against a “particular” outpouring.
I’m thankful that Dr. Wood has made some kind of statement (regardless of the generalities and vague non-specifics). I just pray that he does whatever it takes to make sure that the congregations hear the little bit of a leading that he expressed. (Dr. Wood… How about an article in the Pentecostal Evangel telling people to stay away from Lakeland?)
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June 13, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Mary B
And though the AoG say they stand on the plumline, here is the interpretation of scripture they use to get around the funny manifestations: Jesus said greater things will you do than these.
So apparently that leaves the door open to anything.
I was told by an inlaw to stop reading commentaries on the bible. Every example I gave of why Lakeland was false was shot down because I had read someone else’s oppinion. I was told I should read my Bible as if I was on a deserted island with no outside commentary. There is really very little one can say. There is no reasoning with a charismaniac.
June 13, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Lee
I dunno. I think it’s pretty obvious by listening to the audio that Dr. Wood is speaking out against Lakeland. OK, there’s no specific warning against it; but, keep in mind that Ignited Church is not an AoG church nor is Bentley affiliated w/AoG.
I personally do not agree with all the tenets of AoG; but, within the boundaries of their doctrinal beliefs, I think this was a balanced statement about revival in general. Also, in his mentioning of angels, it’s obvious he is referring to Bentley:
Thus, the focus for any lasting revival always must be on Jesus. The Holy Spirit has not come to glorify Himself, or any human or angelic personality.
“Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. He has lost connections with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow” (Colossians 2:18-19).
In his speech, Dr. Wood stresses “Word,” “doctrine,” Jesus Christ, the gospel, etc. obviously pointing out what Bentley is NOT doing.
OK, he should have spoken out specifically against this and even gone so far as to name Bentley. He should have identified Lakeland/Bentley specifically as evil/fleshly. I’m not sure why there are no leaders (at least that I’ve heard) who are doing this. Are they afraid of lawsuits?
June 13, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Lee
And though the AoG say they stand on the plumline, here is the interpretation of scripture they use to get around the funny manifestations: Jesus said greater things will you do than these.
Does the AoG do this as a matter of doctrinal beliefs? If so, I wasn’t aware of it.
June 13, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Kim
I would imagine that the AoG may want to tread carefully about revivals. I could be wrong but i believe that their movement started with the Azusa revival.
June 13, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Lee
Kim,
You are correct:
http://searchwarp.com/swa44856.htm
June 13, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Mary B
Lee,
I am speaking about my inlaws and their AoG pastor who went to Lakeland. While the pastor warned about ungodly manifestations he was not willing to condemn the revival. A wait and see attitude. I personally don’t understand how you can condemn certain manifesations such as the holy laughter or barking like a dog but accept being slain, going comatose, or having a burning in the belly. Those are experiences atleast my family members have had.
June 13, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Lee
I understand what you’re saying there.
The ol’ “wait and see” — here comes a bus; and I’m in the middle of the street. Should I move? Surely God will protect me and not let the bus run over me, right? Let’s wait and see…
I guess it’s “Eat the meat and spit out the bones” rubbish according to the inlaws.
June 13, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Mary B
In this case I don’t think there is even any meat to eat……just a big bowl of …..lard.
June 13, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Lee
You’re right about that.
June 13, 2008 at 6:57 pm
das1217
MaryB –
reading your Bible like you are on a deserted island with no commentaries is the new way of saying “believe what I say” you don’t need the “BOOK” .
I have heard that alot in the last few months since I stepped away from all the charismania. It’s just plain crazy.
June 13, 2008 at 7:19 pm
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June 13, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Mary B
das 1217,
Well the funny thing is, they have commentaries but I guess I am not allowed to listen to anything that questions the 5 fold ministry. And I am not referring to a commentary just the bible. But they are convinced that I have become biased by something I read somewhere and so I don’t have any valid understanding. It’s really frustrating.
I hope you are doing better since you broke with charismania. I remember you shared how hard and lonely it has been. Have you found a good church?
I know my husband is alot happier to break out. For the first time he is experiencing true freedom and questioning much of what he was taught. I’ve only experienced alittle taste of it and it really makes you want to go insane!
June 16, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Bill
Mary B. :
Ag does not leave the door open to “anything.” In fact, a position paper dealing with manifestations was released in 2000. It still applies today.
Click to access pp_endtime_revival.pdf
Lee,
Ignited church IS an A/G church. A/G is a fellowship, not a top-heavy denomination, and it may likely move slowly than you might like if any action against Ignited is taken.
All,
As I stated over on my blog “It is highly unusual, maybe unprecedented, for the A/G to make such a statement outside of the position-paper format. I’m a straight-forward type of guy. While I would have preferred that the A/G leadership would just go ahead and say it, the timing of this statement pretty much says it all. ”
http://beyondgrace.blogspot.com/2008/06/understanding-lakeland.html
-Bill
http://ag.org/top/church_directory/index.cfm?Display=Yes&churchdetail=4cb575be-b3d7-46bc-8c91-da78f346a3b9
June 16, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Mary B
Bill,
Based on what I have observed with my inlaws, there must be significant variations between A/G churches.
It’s as if this positional paper was written but then everyone winks. Perhaps I have seen some of the worst in the people I have met.
No one that I have met seems to be willing to condemn Toronto or Pensacola revivals or even consider the possibility they were ungodly. Heaven forbid you even imply it. I just don’t understand it. So they write this positional paper, but won’t make a statement about these revivals that are infested with the types of ungodly manifestations and teachings
that were written about in the article. What am I misunderstanding here?
I really mean it Bill, it is just like invasion of the body snatchers. Repeat after me….don’t think, don’t question, just follow the leader.
What purpose is their in being slain in the spirit? What purpose is their to a burning in the belly? THst is the holy spirit? Jesus appeared to my grandmother in law at the foot of her bed and smiled at her. That was her conversion. How am I supposed to process that? I just don’t get it.
June 16, 2008 at 8:58 pm
Kim
Bill,
I like your site Beyond Grace. I really liked this article. I will copy it in its entirety below
**********
True Revival
The sign of true revival is when there are no catchers.
Selah.
***********
Bill…you have inspired me to write an article…here goes…
“If there are catchers…it is not a true revival….”
Wow….i could get used to this time saver… my article has a bit of a different meaning though….
Seriously this is a great article
http://beyondgrace.blogspot.com/2008/06/understanding-lakeland.html
June 17, 2008 at 5:12 am
Lee
Bill,
Thanks for correcting my error regarding Ignited as an AoG church. That’s what I get for posting thoughts from memory (which seems to be fading fast!). I was corrected on another site and had forgotten (that memory thing again) that I had posted the error here as well.
So, to restate: Ignited and Steve Strader DO fall under AoG umbrella. Bentley on the other hand is not affiliated with AoG.
June 17, 2008 at 6:56 am
das1217
MaryB
It has been a long slow road. We started at a little Bible church (non-denominational and very traditional) at the end of January and have really come to love it. The Pastor preaches straight from the Word. The focus of this church is to win the lost. How simple is that. Our worship is mostly hymns, although they have asked me to bring some of the newer worship songs into the service. So we do a small amount of blended worship. I am okay with that.
Our friends that we fellowshipped with before were finally asked to leave their church. They were trying so hard to bring the IHOP stuff into the church and it just wasn’t accepted by the Pastor. This church too was already out of whack (blue flashing lights during prayer, no mention of God in the services,big fans of Elijah list prophecies etc. – one of the members is a personal friend of Kim Clement) I am not really sure why they didn’t fall for the IHOP stuff. I believe it was more a matter of which “man” is leading the church.
Our old friends (all of them) still don’t want much to do with us and I am very, very slowly processing that loss. Leaving my job because of this has caused us some financial hardship as jobs in this area are scarce but we are working through that too. God continues to bless us and provide when needed.
I know there have been quite a few people in this area that have jumped on their bandwagon for IHOP and the biggest problem I’ve encountered in trying to speak out has been that the main couple in this whole thing have been “Christians” for years and I have not – so what can I possibly know. They are more spiritual than I am. You know what I mean.
The whole group are Bentley fans and that compounds the issue.
I just pray for them and give my story when I can. I continue to check the IHOP website and the teaching notes so that I can be informed of what new things they are being taught. It’s actually kind of interesting just even reading the notes as I can see the subtleness of what Bickle is teaching and yet I have a hard time still expressing this. Having sat and listened to Bickle often, I can hear the words coming from these notes and pretty much know what inflections his voice would have and the insinuations that would be made. I wish truly that would go away.
I know that God will in His time provide the right opportunity to bring home the truth to this whole group and I want to be prepared. I continue to follow a few of these blogs as that challenges my mind. I just don’t comment much.
As far as them thinking you are biased because you read something somewhere. You are – you read your Bible and took it at its word. How you can be wrong when you do that is beyond me. You will go a little bit more insane before you come to a place of peace. But it is so worth it. Your husband and mine sound alot alike. Mine babies me along a little when I get down in the dumps or cry. That doesn’t happen nearly as much as it used to.
I continue to pray for all those I see posting on these blogs that have struggled with family members, friends, and churches that are buying into all this stuff be it PDL, IHOP, NAR – whatever.
Blessings to you today.
June 17, 2008 at 9:37 am
Mary B
das1217,
Thank you for sharing your personal struggle. It is a great encouragement. I know it is well worth it now and in the end to walk in the simplicity of Christ and in His truth. May God’s face shine upon you today and always.
June 17, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Bill
Mary B.
Have fun with your inlaws. Show them the Ag position paper that teaches against the five fold.
ag.org/top/Beliefs/Position_Papers/pp_downloads/pp_4195_apostles_prophets.pdf
It suggests that four-fold might be a better descirption, andgoes on to state “However, the best designation for ministry is neither fivefold nor fourfold but manifold. Ephesians 4:12 gives to all saints the work of ministry,”
This paper sheds light on why Bill Johnson (Bethel Church) had to leave AG- you can’t be A/G and claim the “office of the apostle.”
Now, many A/G churches deviate, but at least as an A/ger, I can hold my leadership accountable. Couldn’t do that during my 25 years as a charismatic.
June 17, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Mary B
thanks Bill,
Yes, it is **ah** fun. We just sent them an article on Benny Hinn.
Seriously, I had no idea that A/G did not support the 5 fold ministry.wow.
That is news to me and will be apparently to my inlaws.
June 17, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Lee
And, I, as well, I did not know the AoG did not suppor the five(four)fold.
June 17, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Kim
Here is clickable link to that article
Click to access pp_4195_apostles_prophets.pdf
June 21, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Lee
I just posted this over on the greycoats site:
I’ve never heard of the Asbury Revival of 1970 until I caught the tail end of a program on Christian radio just a bit ago. After a quick google search I found this:
http://forerunner.com/forerunner/X0585_Asbury_Revival_1970.html3
Some quotes:
The service, a routine meeting, was scheduled for 50 minutes. Instead, it lasted 185 hours non-stop, 24 hours a day. Intermittently, it continued for weeks. Ultimately, it spread across the United States and into foreign countries. Some say it is being felt even today.
…On that Tuesday morning in 1970, Custer Reynolds, Asbury’s academic dean and a Methodist layman, was in charge. President Dennis Kinlaw was traveling. Reynolds did not preach. Instead, he briefly gave his testimony, then issued an invitation for students to talk about their own Christian experiences. There was nothing particularly unusual about that.
One student responded to his offer. Then another. Then another.
“Then they started pouring to the altar,” Reynolds said. “it just broke.”
Gradually, inexplicably, students and faculty members alike found themselves quietly praying, weeping, singing. They sought out others to whom they had done wrong deeds and asked for forgiveness. The chapel service went on and on.
…One remarkable thing, given the youthfulness of the worshipers, he said, was that the marathon service was uncannily orderly. Worshipers did not become loud, did not speak out of turn, did not fall down on the floor in religious ecstasy.
…On the other hand, Harrell said, the Asbury revival occurred simultaneously with a massive neo-Pentecostal renewal in the 1960s and 1970s. The Asbury revival was not itself Pentecostal, in that there was no speaking in tongues or healing by faith. But if lumped with that charismatic movement and the “born-again” revivals of the mid-70s, the Asbury outbreak might be part of the most influential world-wide renewals of the century.
If this account is factual, then this sounds like a REAL revival. Has anyone here heard about this before?
June 21, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Kim
I dunno Lee,
I looked around this forerunner site and there were many new-age “awakening” links.
June 21, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Lee
Yes, I noticed that as well. However, at this particular revival — if the account is true — people were brought to repentance and the students ‘did not fall down on the floor in religious ecstasy.’
It’d be great to have comments from some who were there; or, who, at least, remember the account when it was actually going on.
June 21, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Lee
Kim,
Here’s a comment over on greycoats:
http://thegreycoats.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/kickin-folks-in-the-teeth-for-christ-now-thats-my-kinda-revival/#comment-5833
June 21, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Kim
Lee,
I just watched this video about the asbury revival
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1343001998
Fantastic!
The emphasis is not on the gift but on sin, repentance, restitution and restoration.
Quotes
“The amazing thing was, a person would tell what had happened…it would be recapitulated as a person would go somewhere and tell what God had done in his auditorium…it would take place in the church where the person was telling it.”
“The less impressive the student was..the more effective a instrument he was”
The video ends with how the revival started. Students would gather in groups of 6. Every morning for 30 minutes, each one would pray in the Word every morning and obey the Word. They would meet again and share with each what God has taught them. They prayed for God to come….and He did.
November 24, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Jeff
and I thought blue jeans, t shirts and rock music in the church was freaky. Man do I have a lot to catch up on!
Barking like dogs, chickens gold swords, rolling up stairs,
Shaking, singing Mary had a little lamb in evil overtones hmm .. That might make a cool rock song.. Just kidding..
Don’t ask anything just follow.. Yea like to see them try that one with me.
The list aparently goes on and on..
I just wish I new how I could help !
Posting is ok but these people need to be slaped not slained!
Really it sounds like occults. Brainwashing? Coolaid?
If any one knows if there are any of these occults in the palm beach are please let me know.