I wish I knew who wrote this but i do not…….It is a very important testimony…
A testimony of a former New Ager:‘The first time that I saw gold filling in teeth was back in the late 70’s when I was a graduate student at a New Age center for healing through the occult arts. An old-time new age christian evangelist named Brother Willard Fuller came for an intensive 5 days to teach the bible and introduce the “gifts of the spirit” which he said anyone can have if they just asked. He was invited because of the particular ‘power’ he operated in. He did teach on the bible beginning in genesis and did teach about Jesus. I don’t remember much of the teaching except for the miracles that this Jesus did.
I was interested in this particular training since Jesus was my spirit guide and I wanted to know more about him. At the end of the 5 days there was a “healing service” where he layed hands on people and gold would manifest in their mouths. I didn’t get gold but my teeth became a brilliant white ( for about a week afterwards).I was amazed by this type of power although my teacher, Eva, who was a shaman / healer and trans-medium ( channeled a spirit that would fortell and speak hidden “wisdom”) could do some pretty amazing things. I hadn’t seen anything like this that so titilated my flesh. I wanted this power that was in his name- Jesus. As a result, I bought a bible and began to study it on my own to find out more about this Jesus that I could be exactly like.. and operate in the same power. At one point a crystal manifested before my eyes, floated then dropped to the ground at my feet. My teacher said that this was a gift from my “spirit guide – Jesus” and was to be kept on me always as a source of power.Through the amazing grace of God I met the real Jesus alone in my apt while studying scirpture and He saved a poor wretch like me. After 7 years of studying to be a new age healer I became a Christian with the sincere desire to follow only Him. I burned all my amulets, books tapes etc renounced and repented. The mask came off of my spirit guide to reveal a monster demon.
The first church that I decided to attend was a Word of Faith church that was appealing because the pastor’s wife was a “prophetess” and they were seeking after ”true miracles”- signs and wonder. Now I could experience the “power“ ligitimately because I was a christian and it must be from god. During my 7 years at this church, I grew in the healing arts of christianity and got ‘drunk in the spirit’ alot through the ministry of Joe Jordon. We grew in flakiness and twisting of scripture and many lives became shipwrecked. The pastors divorced and the wife started working for the psychic hotline and her sister now reads Tarot cards.Sooo after joining a vineyard church I was hesitant when our pastor insisted that we go to Toronto for “the Blessing” since I thought the whole laughing thing was off( because of Joe Jordon) but you get swept in this and think that “how could so many people be deceived’? ” I want what they are experiencing.. I don’t want to miss out on a possible move of God.. I want to see real signs and wonders, etc, etc… ” But the sin of self/idolatry and desire for “power” and to be like god (gen.3) is so strong that you are blinded. When I heard of the gold dust and fillings I had a distant check but thought well it must be God if it is coming through Christians to the church.I began to see such similarity to my training in the new age from inner healing , body healing, visualization, meditation, body sensations, disguised shamanistic rituals and beliefs, divination , etc. that I was convinced that Jesus in very soon coming back for all religions are converging into one. After getting out of the river we began to read the bible with new understanding. The Holy Spirit really started to highlight scripture and teach us with a new understanding and in context.Jesus said to His disciples when they asked in Mathew 24:3-4 ” what will be the sign of Your coming. and of the end of the age? ” Jesus’ first reply to that question was ‘take heed that no one deceives you…’ That was His first response! Wow when you think about it that was a warning to the men who knew Him well . Jesus must have known that even those who know Him well could be deceived!I know well that satan can produce signs and wonders and much of what is being produced now through the charasmatic church is from satan. This polluted river is doing a fine job preparing the minds and hearts for the coming of the anti-christ. He IS coming back soon!
I know many people who are immersed (or should I say drowning in the pursuit of signs and wonders. It is almost like drug addiction. There is a growing need for something stronger with each experience. It does create a high. But as with drug addicts and alcoholics there is a denial. People really don’t want to look at their own sin or the harm that it is causing but would rather get high instead though the experience of “being at a conference where Jesus showed up with a sign and wonder”.
I just read about a conference called “Growing in the Supernatural” sponsored by Patricia King. There are 20 people advertized who will be speaking. I know that half of them operate ( in ignorance) in shaministic practices and with spirits of divination and sorcery. I guarantee that people who attend will have a sense of euphoria and a visitation but it will not be from Almighty God.
It is a sad thing that Jesus Christ and Him crucified- the wonder of the cross and His resurrection is not enough! It takes faith to walk this narrow road. And many times it does not feel good and there is suffering. We become impatient and have heard for years the rhetoric from the false prophets about the coming revival and visitation “where people will be healed and the dead raised”. Slowly our eyes turned from Jesus and our future hope to “I want something now which will confirm all that the false prophets have been saying”. There is such a desire to “experience something.. anything will do that is supernatural”. That is why contemplative prayer which is based on eastern mystiscism has become so popular in the church.
May the Lord through His mercy and grace open the eyes of our friends understanding and lead them into the truth.
Please use my testimony any way you see fit. Maybe it will be just the bait on the fishing pole that will draw someone out of the river. I pray for the people I know and those I don’t who are caught up in deception….People are looking for a quick fix and solution to their everyday problems. Being obedient and following the Lord – abiding in scripture is not appealing. Hebrews 5:14 ” But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil”.
Throughout history our tendency is to idolatry. These leaders are idols who are worshipped and their teachings are the gospel ( of course backed up with the false signs and wonders) Paul warns in 1 Corinthians 10:14 to “flee from idolatry” and 10:21 “you cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons…”
I know how angry and defensive people get regarding their golden calf. The ramifications of seeing are enormous. Repentance is not popular and is almost becoming obsolete. There is nothing we can say that will open their eyes but for the work of the Holy Spirit and the grace of God…’
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December 26, 2007 at 5:29 am
jb
Kim,
Can’t explain it in words. This is my exact story.
December 26, 2007 at 8:41 am
Kim
Then you have been through alot my friend. These testimonies are so important. There many statements and truths that “grab” me.
Like this:
“Being obedient and following the Lord – abiding in scripture is not appealing.”
Or this:
“Repentance is not popular and is almost becoming obsolete.”
I am studying Jude right now, praying about these verses.
Jude 22-23 “And of some have compassion, making a difference: And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.”
Praise God you were pulled out.
December 26, 2007 at 11:42 am
Christ
Kim,
This would be the good answer for Jb “May the Lord through His mercy and grace open the eyes of our friends understanding and lead them into the truth.” and thanks for your Testimony information.
December 28, 2007 at 5:34 am
Jim Jordan
Unfortunately, the reason Oprah is so popular is that she is the typical confused everywoman that her audience sees in the mirror. She is delving more and more into this New Age faux Christianity with the addition of a daily radio show on her XM station by Marianne Williamson, a New Ager whose spiel sounds identical to the Eadie woman.
Thank God we have good Bible studies to prepare us to discern the Shepherd’s voice from the voice of the world.
December 28, 2007 at 5:48 am
Kim
OH Yes, Hi Jim …. you know how i agree with you…(we are fellow BSFers)
Oprah is very dangerous because of her influence and has a HUGE audience. I am frightened to see what damage this will do.
A Course in Miracles was telepathically dictated to a non-believing Jewish woman, Helen Schucman, by a “Jesus”. This “Jesus” says that there are errors in the bible and that this book will remedy the situation. Marianne Williamson is promoting ACIM by her own book. It will this heresy that will be taught.
Oh Lord….
December 28, 2007 at 7:06 pm
Bill
The Charismatic doctrine of “reclaimation” is scarey, indeed. I have heard those who teach how to prophesy (personal prophecy) suggest that certrain techniques were originated by God, co-opted by the devil, and now we are taking them back. And so in the charismatic church you can be taught how to “read” people.
Here’s another example of this doctrine, illustrated by Andrew Strom. I tund into TBN late one night and saw a demonstration of this and it seemed quite demonic.
The ON-STAGE DANCING throughout this conference was a good example. Now, I myself am a rock musician, but from the beginning these dance items had a rather ‘wild’ aspect to them that truly made me uncomfortable in my spirit. There was even one that came across like a sensual ‘Harem’ dance. Much of it really felt “off” – and almost anyone who sees the videos will tell you so. Even the worship had a very “tribal” feel to it at times. And by Day Three they were doing dance items with just loud voodoo-style drums only – and leaping around in a frenzied circle making weird cries to the super-amplified beat. The feeling in the room was so oppressive and “pagan” during this, that I could hardly even bear to stay in there. Then came one of the most shocking statements of the whole conference – from one of the main prophets. He got up and said that people may feel uncomfortable with such obviously “pagan” type dancing, but that it was originally God’s type of dancing and we were just now ‘stealing back’ what the pagans had stolen from God!
December 28, 2007 at 8:57 pm
Kim
The sad part is that people who are enjoying themselves at this kind of frenzy will accept the explanation that the pagan dancing was once indeed from God.
I am going to have watch TBN again to see what is going on. There are only two shows that i used to watch. Kirk Cameron and David Reagan.
December 28, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Bill
To clarify
That was a few years ago that I saw such dancing on TBN. I couldn’t sleep and flipped on the tV. It may have been a program with Kim Clement.
The earlier quotation (italics) was from Andrew Strom’s “WHy I left the prophetic.” Linked from:
http://beyondgrace.blogspot.com/2004/12/leaving-prophetic.html
It was unreal to later hear Stroms recollection of seeing such an event since I had also (by TV) witnessed a similar (or the same) event- the circle with the voodo-style drums and the frenzied leaping. Lots of girls shaking the head with long hair flying. I could not watch it for long, later I wished I had videotaped it.
January 6, 2008 at 8:36 am
livingjourney
Emmm… OK, How come we are talking about Oprah and the New Age, when this post is about the cute cat pictures?
Did I get redirected or something??? Curious!
Or is WordPress playing up big time?
V
… And just for the record I spoke to a friend the other day who went to a year 12 graduation ceremony which included some dance and theatre. This school is a Lutheran school which happens to be one of the best schools in the state.
For their graduation, they had tribal drumming and dancing as one of the main stage acts!!! My friend just sat there and wondered what was the point of this dance, who does it edify, why even do this in a Christian school, and really thought that the whole thing was so far away from the bible and quite bizarre. She was actually dumbfounded and left thoroughly confused.
Anyway, I love the cats!
January 6, 2008 at 8:49 am
Kim
V,
Forgive my departure on the LOL cat post. Mary wanted to know what my avatar was. I got it from ICanHasCheezburger. I will probably take it down after awhile.
I have been reading about the drumming. Dear Lord….i started an article on this but have not persued it yet. You are the first with an actual situation being spoken of. I am a Lutheran and have been watching carefully the changes that are occuring.
Thanks for the report.
January 6, 2008 at 9:20 am
livingjourney
Oh, but I love the cats… I have four of these eccentric creatures.
By the way, I wonder if according to New Age theory, Hitler, Stalin, and any other despot are considered to be divine?
I do know that Hitler thought of himself as a God manifested in the flesh…. or words to the same effect.
In fact if you are interested in reading some thoughts that came from an anti-christ type, that being Hitler, I can email you a link for a PDF e-book called “The Holy Book of Hitler” by JAMES LARRATT BATTERSBY. First Published in November, 1952, by J. L. Battersby, at Southport, England, for the German World Church in Europe.
What you will read will sound awfully familiar to those of you who are beginning to see the implications of the social gospel and New Age spirituality being mixed into a so called New Reformation that could very well build the kingdom of [g]od the one that the prophet Daniel spoke about…
V
January 6, 2008 at 9:33 am
Kim
Oh yes please do send it to me.
kimmerlee42353@hotmail.com
Very interesting…another facet…their are so many parallels that my head spin.
I am still trying to finish and contemplate that article you wrote
http://livingjourney.wordpress.com/2007/12/10/dominionism-the-seven-mountains/
This is very interesting.
January 6, 2008 at 10:30 am
livingjourney
Ok, I have sent you the link.
I think that in studying anti-types and how they managed to hoodwink the masses, we should get a pretty good picture about any forthcoming messiah type.
Recently I have wanted to know a little more about characteristics of certain men and their ideals/dreams and aspirations.
“”Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived…
He had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him.
He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”
– John F. Kennedy,
President of the
United States of America””
“… Hitler is one of the greatest men. The old trust him, the young idolise him. It is the worship of a national hero who has served his country.”
– David Lloyd George,
Prime Minister and Statesman,
Great Britain.
“In fifteen years that have followed this resolve, he (Hitler) has succeeded in restoring Germany to the most powerful position in Europe, and not only has he restored the position of his country, but he has even, to a very great extent, reversed the results of the Great War … whatever else may be thought about these exploits they are certainly among the most remarkable in the whole history of the world.”
– Winston Churchill,
Prime Minister and Statesman,
Great Britain.
I think we are going to be hearing similar things when the real deal happens!
Sorry to high-jack this thread…
How did I ever get from cats, to Hitler … hmmmm
🙂
January 6, 2008 at 10:54 am
Lee
By the way, I wonder if according to New Age theory, Hitler, Stalin, and any other despot are considered to be divine?
In Constance Cumbey’s 1983 book “The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow” she references a New Age/Theosophical book which calls Hitler a ‘disciple:’
“…a previous attempt had been made to unify Europe ‘by uniting the peoples living in the Rhine River valley using that river as binding factor. It was an attempt by a disciple but did work. Now another attempt is in full swing…'” (Running God’s Plan by Foster Bailey, pp. 14-15, 1972 Lucis Trust)
Lucis Trust publishing was formerly known as Lucifer Trust.
January 6, 2008 at 11:05 am
livingjourney
Lee…
Now, that is scary stuff.
Vee
January 6, 2008 at 11:10 am
Lee
Cumbey is still researching the New Age movement to this day. Here’s here blog:
http://cumbey.blogspot.com/
She believes Javier Solana could be the Antichrist.
January 9, 2008 at 5:22 am
George
I don’t know if any of you have seen the DVD’S called Megiddo and Megiddo2
There is alot of information on all the subjects your talking about New age Hitler,Stalin ect. Also the cult. I purchased mine online they really are worth seeing, A lot of answers to our questions
January 9, 2008 at 5:38 pm
livingjourney
Lee I have seen Cumbey’s blog… it’s interesting
January 10, 2008 at 12:05 am
Mary
George,
I havent seen Megiddo but I couldn’t endorse anything the Crouches are involved with. As nice as they may be, their theology is shameful.
January 10, 2008 at 4:30 am
Kim
I wonder if this is a different Megiddo. This two-part series has these people involved who are experts in the new age movement. I know who Dave Hunt and Caryl Matrisciana are, and i trust these two. (but i haven’t seen these dvd’s)
from a dvd merchant:
Join speakers Dave Hunt, Caryl Matrisciana, Dr. Kent Hovind, Pastor Joe Schimmel, and Dr. Stan Monteith who expose the movement that seeks to unite mankind in a one-world religion through the United Nations.
Megiddo: The March to Armageddon (DVD Format)
Megiddo II: The New Age (DVD Format)
George are these the DVD’s you are referring to? They sound good….
January 11, 2008 at 4:17 am
Mary
Kim,
I didn’t know there was another DVD out there. I think perhaps George is referring to the one you are talking about.
January 11, 2010 at 3:26 am
denise
thanks for this testomy.my church family has just had a narrow escape from flood of the emerging church. pastor went on study leave and all fired up brought it back.shattering attending families. those of us who remain are comitted to each other,the scriptures & not being poluted by the world in this presant perilous time.COME LORD JESUS the mesiah of the living God.
January 11, 2010 at 8:06 am
Kim
denise,
Thank you for the comment on this article. It was good reread it. Praise God for your faithfulness to the Word of God.
A group of us have left our church because of the ELCA resolution allowing homosexual pastors. We are starting a new church and are being persecuted by the remaining congregation. I jotted down the Hebrews 5:14 passage for our first meeting next week.
“But solid food is for the mature who by constant use have trained themselves to distinquish good from evil”
With the explosion of false ministries such as Todd Bentley, MorningStars Rick Joyner, IHOP and Bob Jones, this information is a vital read.
ps…Our pastor has remained faithful to God’s Word and we will be calling him as our new pastor. Please pray for those in the pulpit who endure persecution for speaking the Truth.
January 14, 2010 at 11:54 am
Notonmywatch!
kim we cant post on the latest tv blog, u may wish to remedy that?
January 14, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Kim
Okay, thanks… I think i fixed it.
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