GODDESS WORSHIP
When I hear and learn about the sad condition of the church today, I am truly burdened. Then something like this comes along and truly knocks me right back down on my knees in prayer. (You know those huge kneepads carpet installers wear? I need me some of those!) Anyway..
I learned from Richard Coombes http://aoreport.com that there was a United Methodist Church (a mega-church) near him in Kansas City “engaging in various non-standard variations along the lines of referring to the Holy Spirit as a goddess or the great goddess or mother goddess – and even praying to this goddess.” Apparently, this applies to the entire mainline UMC denomination, with the exception of those who have withdrawn and become independent. I am thinking…What? What is going on?
I looked into the United Theological Seminary. They have a pitiful Portrait of Jesus.
This link gripes me no end with the seminary advocating mystical experiences.
http://www.united.edu/portrait/spirit1.shtml
Here is a portion:
“Spirit person or religious ecstatic is one who has frequent and vivid experiences of the sacred.”
“Most of these experiences involve non-ordinary states of consciousness such as vision, shamanic journeys, mystical experiences, or enlightenment experiences.”
Then read this statement by Dr. Marcus Borg who is involved with the United Theological Seminary.
To be Christian, I would say, is to live within the Christian tradition as a metaphor of the sacred, and also as a sacrament of the sacred. The tradition as a whole has as one of its main purposes mediating the reality of the spirit or the reality of the sacred—that is, entering into a relationship with the sacred. It’s about entering into a relationship with suchness, with is-ness. I think of God, to use very abstract language, as is-ness without limits. Our relationship to is-ness matters profoundly. It will shape our whole way of being in the world. If we see is-ness as indifferent, we will be concerned with our own self-protection. If we see is-ness as threatening, we’ll be even more paranoid about life. But if we see is-ness as giving us life, it creates the possibility of relating to life in a non-threatened kind of way. That makes possible the lives of the saints.
What?? Where is Jesus Christ in our Christian life, and what is…”is-ness”..? Good grief, it is no wonder that the Church is in trouble, if this is what the seminaries are teaching. I don’t mean to pick on the UMC because these things are happening straight across the board in all the denominations.
This link below is an article called “The March of Sophia” (Paganism in Our Churches) This is part III of a series of 5. This article describes how a Lutheran church (my denomination), sponsors a yearly retreat called “Retreat with She Who Is”, led by a Lutheran pastor.
Excerpt: The pastor “invited us to form our own images in clay of Asherah, the mother goddess of the Canaanites…with a sacred body just like mine”. All ten of us prayed the Goddess rosary. Pastor Stacy called us to “remember the sea as the primal water from which life emerged, to think of it as the amniotic fluid of our mothers’ wombs”.
http://www.chalcedon.edu/articles/article.php?ArticleID=274
If you have a chance to read all of the series you should be shocked as I was.
Richard also gave me other sites to look at. Please take a look at:
http://www.cwfa.org/articles/609/CFI/cfreport/index.htm
The Church in Bondage Timeline of Goddess Worship in the Churches
http://cmpage.org/bondage/appendixd.html
Re-Imagining Revival
http://www.jeremiahproject.com/prophecy/feminist4.html
from the above link:
RE-Imagining Revival
“Sophia, Creator God, let your milk and honey flow, Sophia, Creator god, shower us with your love..Our sweet Sophia, we are women in your image. With nectar between our thighs, we invite a lover, we birth a child; with our warm body fluids, we remind the world of its pleasure and sensations…”
Thus went the prayer offered up in their pagan service along with replacing the bread and wine of the Lord’s Supper with bread, milk and honey. They continued by singing songs to the goddess Sophia, the source of their divinity, the creator who dwells within them and unleashes within them their divine power. Conference participants worshipped the divine in each other by marking red dots on their foreheads to signify their divinity, and then bowing to each other in an act of reverence.
National staff and leaders of the Presbyterian Church (USA) gathered with feminist leaders from other World Council of Churches denominations including United Methodist, Lutherans, Roman Catholics, United Church of Christ, Baptists, Episcopalians, Mennonites, United Church of Canada, the church of the Brethren and the Church Women United.
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The above list of denominations is frightening. The feminist movement has a great deal to do with the infiltration of goddess worship in the church and according to the occult world the New Age that is dawning will be a feminine age. The feminine goddess is being accepted in the liberal church and prevalent in witchcraft, especially Wicca. The woman of today is being asked to realize her god nature in her spiritual search. If you ever watch Oprah, she is a total advocate of New Age philosophies and continues to feature New Age women on her show.
There is so, so much information on all these practices that I feel that I have not really done you justice by the lack of content, but I hope to have sparked your interest and that you will continue to research. Most of all the information I have read comes from the blogroll.
All these issues from Yoga to Goddess worship involve the same principles. These principles that range from the altered consciousness to contact and worship with the spirit world, lead us away from Christ. All these apostate traveled roads are leading right to the New Age Spirituality. When the church is deemed harmless and determined nonexistent, the world will be ready to accept the Antichrist with open arms. He will fit right in because the world is now being prepared for his arrival.
Are you ready? Are you wearing God’s spiritual armor and using his Word to defend yourself or are you spiritually compromised by involving yourself in the occult world?
There are only two choices!!!!
kim
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30 comments
August 14, 2007 at 9:57 am
waytruthlife
Hi Kim,
This is the movement which sparked my interest in false teachings in the church several years back. My family is UCC. I regard the United Church of Christ to be “cutting edge apostates”! I went through my Grandma’s collection of books and such that she had gotten from her church over the years and exclaimed, “Gramma! Why do you have this stuff?!” She replied, “Why? Is it bad???” Needless to say, I took the books away from her. It’s sad when little old ladies, who put so much trust in their church leadership, are fed such poison.
I highly recommend a book written by Berit Kjos “A Twist of Faith”, and another by Peter Jones “Pagans In The Pews.”
Heidi
August 14, 2007 at 7:14 pm
Kim
Thanks for the information Heidi!
One of the problems is that congregations automatically trust church leadership. Those days are long gone.
I will add these books to my collection.
August 17, 2007 at 11:47 pm
Peg
Hi Kim,
Checking in (briefly!) from vacation — wow you’ve been busy!
Just wanted to add a note to this post… this is one of the issues causing the nationwide split in my church (Episcopal) right now. So far my parents have lost their church building in their stand for Biblical teachings, and now my parish is under the gun. The denominations are badly in need of reformation… if they keep going in this direction there won’t be anything left of them. (well at least not anything recognizable as Christian!)
Keep the good stuff coming, Peg
February 20, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Diana
You must be a very fearful and ignorant woman
to be opposing the great mother the way that you are.
Christianity has long been lacking in connecting to the
feminine side of God.
If you do not see this, and only care about
the masculine side, that that is very sad for
you. Jesus himself was quite feminine and peace-
loving. He opposed the Patriarchy but you are
upholding it.
Diana
February 21, 2008 at 3:11 am
Kim
Diana,
I have no fear, do not consider myself ignorant, and have no lack in the worship of Jesus Christ. My biblical view seems to cause fear in others though, which in turn causes their hatred and name calling. It is OK, though. The Bible says those who believe in Him will be hated for it.
John 15:19 “…but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.” 20 “If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.” 21 “They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me.”
July 11, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Andy
My two cents:
If we, both men and women, were made in God’s image (as the Bible says), then why is a feminine God so unacceptable?
God, to me, is beyond gender. To call God He or She is simply personifying something deeply mysterious and far beyond human comprehension. I believe it is necessary, however, to personify Him/Her in order to commune. There are so many various personifications of God around the world because of environment, tradition, inner feelings, and experience. From this standpoint, to call God a She or a Goddess is just another variation ultimately stemming from the same Source.
So I don’t feel shocked, threatened, or anything negative about another personification of God that is different from my own belief.
To force metaphoric truth into literal truth, however, is the downside of any belief system. This is what causes the hatred and violence on both sides.
And that is what saddens me more than anything.
July 11, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Kim
The Bible is consistent when referring to the Trinity.
The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost.
God is called the Father, which leaves no room for a female interpretation.
October 29, 2008 at 4:48 pm
michelle
First off I take offense to your reference that there are only two choices in life.
I respect your choice to follow Jesus, and can see if you feel your religion is being infiltrated as you call it why you are upset.
However I don’t believe you have the right to tell anyone there are only two choices.
Your religion preaches tolerance of other and you are not practicing it at all. As far the goddess issue, the Virgin Mary is in essence your goddess she is a divine sacred feminine the holy mother of Jesus what is so wrong with a women realizing she is sacred?
Though I respect your beliefs and acknowledge that in this country you have the freedom to voice your feelings. I do not agree with you, I believe Jesus was a great man who taught tolerance and love, he was a very enlightened person. However, I do not follow that path and would ask that just because your views aren’t mine you practicing a bit tolerance. After all no matter what creed we are both of believe we are children of god, or in my case the god and goddess.
October 29, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Kim
No where in the Bible does it mention Mary as divine. She was indeed very blessed to be the Mother of the Son of God. But she is not a Goddess, and i am not a Catholic.
Yes, the Bible is offensive, and Jesus offended many. Look at these verses.
Mat 13:57 And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor.”
Mar 6:3 Isn’t this the carpenter? Isn’t this Mary’s son and the brother of James, Joseph,* Judas and Simon? Aren’t his sisters here with us?” And they took offense at him.
Gal 5:11 Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished.
Christianity does not teach tolerance in beliefs in other gods. Right off the bat in the Ten Commandments it says “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”
John 14:6 is clear. This is what Jesus said ” I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
So to be a child of God you need to believe that Jesus died for you, and that He shed His blood so that you could have eternal life. It is only through the shedding of blood for our sin, that we can be forgiven. Many indeed do find this offensive because we have to admit that we are sinners and that we cannot save ourselves, and this is pride.
You say do not agree with me, but it is God you are not agreeing with.
October 30, 2008 at 1:28 pm
michelle
First off the ten commandments are a jewish list of law and only came about as the Jews, who original did practice a form of paganism made their turn to monthesism.
Another point how can you prove those were Jesus true words and not the words of another since you were not there and did not bear witness to his words, and others can easily insert their own words and label it as the “word of god”, also considering the true bible would have been written in Aramaic not the English language others could have certainly changed the meanings over time. Perhaps you should look into the books that didn’t make it into the bible.
As far as sinning there is rule called the rule of three it means whatever I do to hurt another comes back at me three fold, therefore I am responsible for my actions just in a different way.
Once again I am not attacking your belief of being christian or the your right to practice as you see fit I am merely think that you should view others with patience and tolerance before you chant your holy rant. After all intolerance breeds hatred and hatred is a sin in your religion and mine.
I understand where your original concern came from since if a another came to my ritual and tried to insert their own beliefs I would be upset as well, but that does not give you the right to crusade against others merely because your beliefs are different.
However I feel if you have such an issue in your own church that instead of venting on the internet you should be venting to your minister.
Also I would like to complement you on your grasp of verse as well, though I don’t agree with you on many points, your first post was mature and well thought out you went wrong when you said to people there are to paths in life in fact there are many and there are many religions, and for the most part we all want the same thing peace, understanding, and love, as long as we are all striving to make ourselves better people and to make this world a better place it should not matter what creed we follow.
October 30, 2008 at 3:22 pm
Kim
There is a great site that explains much about the Bible.
http://www.carm.org/questions/trustbible.htm
There is chart here and other articles explain that the Gospels were written while there were still eye-witnesses of Jesus on earth. These early manuscripts were never disputed.
My blog is mostly about warning other Christians about heresies entering the church but of course I welcome all who read it. I only follow Jesus Christ. You may follow who you wish but…if ever you are on a sinking ship…whose name will you call on?
Our choices are eternal….I hope the best for you and also hope that you will someday know who truly loves you. It is Jesus Christ who loves you so much….He died just for you.
I am not sure that i understand your last paragraph…because i do not beleive that there are many paths that lead to absolute truth. Since I believe the Bible i believe that Jesus is THE only way.
October 30, 2008 at 4:18 pm
michelle
I want to apologize for my preivious message as I reread it is a bit harsh and I am sorry. After talking to another voice of reason, I can see where I went wrong.
I believe our misunderstanding happen over sacred and divinity aspect which I can now see we have to different views. For me all life is sacred and has a soul and as such be treated with respect and love.
As a woman I feel I am sacred not divine just a sacred being in this big old world, and in truth I was looking for your opinion on the matter because it seemed as if you were saying women should not be considered sacred or treated with respect when you mention feminism.
I originally was searching for a better understanding of how you felt about a woman’s place in society and the bible, and meant no offense. I know now that because we are two different creeds what divine and sacred means to me means something different to you, so alas I don’t believe we will see eye to eye on that issue.
As far as your warning others that is your right and your are entitled to be irked if you feel that someone is trying to impress their religious views on you, and in no way was trying to convert you to my religion, I respect your choice and admire that you are passionate about your beliefs.
Also since we do have different beliefs, views and religions I was trying to gain a better understanding of where you were coming from. Thank you for your recommendations I will look into them since I love learning about different religions and views to have more understanding and compassion towards others.
However, since we are on different paths in life I hope you walk your road in good health and love. Have a very nice day.
October 31, 2008 at 6:02 am
donna
Mary Worship has no place in church. Check out what Jesus stated in Luke 11:27-28, a woman stated to Jesus, “Blessed is the mother who gave birth to and nursed you. Jesus replied,” Blessed RATHER are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
God said “I am the LORD that is my name and my glory will I NOT GIVE TO ANOTHER, neither my praise to graven images.” Isaiah 42:8.
In John 2:5 Mary said “Whatever he saith unto you do it”
Luke 1:47 Mary states she needed a savior.
Praying to Mary is a sin, the Bible states:
“For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, THE MAN CHRIST JESUS.
Come on guys think about it, Mary is God’s creation, you
are thinking in terms Mary created God!!! Mary is God’s child. Mary was used to build God’s kingdom just as Billy Graham was. GOD COMMANDS US TO LOVE HIM WITH ALL OUR HEART, NOT HIM AND MARY,
GOD DOSEN’T NEED MARY TO COMPLETE HIM (A FEMININE SIDE) GOD WAS COMPLETE BEFORE MARY EXSISTED.
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November 22, 2008 at 10:39 am
Marium
Hi there;
Ths is very offtopic but I really love the picture of the art print with the girl and the silence symbol. Can you tell me what artist this is?
December 9, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Gnostic Christian
The Holy Spirit = Sophia = Wisdom
Sophia is the feminine face of God’s Holy Trinity.
This comes from Judaism and from the Gnostic (early Christian) texts, which are far older than the King James version you’re probably reading.
If you are only reading the King James version of the Holy Bible, which is what is seems to be from your quotations, you are missing out on the rest of the story. Each translator of the Bible added his own words depending on the era the texts were reproduced in, and unless you can read Hebrew and Greek, you’re probably not living exactly what the original writers of the Bible wanted you to.
Regarding the Labyrinth in your other recent post: Christian mysticism has been around since the beginning of Christianity, and looking deep within, speaking with other clergy, and seeking divinity is what propelled the writers of the Bible to be able to express the wisdom of God’s words. How do you think it happened? How do you think the original teachings came about? Someone had to be divinely inspired; Billy Graham certainly was. Christianity does not exist in a vacuum. Who/what inspires you? Do you constantly walk in fear, or do you ever learn from anything that has happened to you/because of your existence?
Also, if you are so hung up on your version of the Bible, why are you here, trying to offer wisdom and instruct the masses? According to your own Bible, women are not to teach.
December 9, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Kim
Gnosticism was a dangerous heresy which was found in the first two centuries of the church. Gnosticism or “special knowledge” was forbidden as was Jewish kaballa or mysticism. Same thing.
We can see as early as Genesis a temptation of special knowledge was not ignored but embraced.
“For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil”……..
This temptation is the same today….the forbidden fruit of knowledge looks so delicious.
There is much proof as to the authenticity of the Bible..People like to imagine that the meaning of the Bible has been changed to satisfy their sinful ways of rebellion. There is much evidence of this fact. Look here
http://www.carm.org/questions/trustbible.htm
Oh yes, seeking divinity….This is always the kicker. Man wants to look within for divinity but what does the Bible say about this?
Man wants to believe in his own self. That is why Satans words “Did God really say?” Gen 3:1 deceive so many.
The trinity is the very nature of God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. No goddesses here. There were Egyptian goddesses but the Bible teaches that the gods of the world are false gods.
I have no authority over anyone…instead Jesus Christ has total authority over ME!. I was created to serve Him.
December 10, 2008 at 2:18 am
Gnostic Christian
I did not realize you were Lutheran until I read more of your site. That explains your theological views, your stalwartness, and your responses. I’m glad to have that cleared up!
There are questions I’m sure many people have, but may not have asked; they’re not meant as an insult, but merely questions regarding differences between the faiths, which most people are curious about, Christian or not. Please and thanks for your responses!
1. Do you believe it is okay for men to abuse with no provocation their sisters, elders, and the mothers of their children? This isn’t to say that there’s never a provocation for anger, but most of the time, there isn’t; the man is simply taking his frustrations with the day out on those he is a supposed to shepherd. How can a man claim to serve Jesus and treat a female family member as early Christians were treated by their enemies, who thought of them to be lesser creatures, who thought of Jesus’ teachings to be dangerous? I know that Lutheran theology believes that one should be above one’s situation in life, and to turn only to Christ, but the distraction of unprovoked abuse often takes its toll. What is the Lutheran prescription for a woman’s fear for her family’s safety, and for her own, when the situation proves to be untenable? What is the prescription for a man who takes his frustrations (or has a mental disorder) out on his family without provocation?
2. The CARM site gives only scant information on the historical accuracy of the Bible; can you direct everyone to other sites you and others trust?
3. What are yours and Church-sanctioned Lutheran views on the adoption of various religious holidays that did not start off as Christian, but are instead a blend of many traditions, but with Christianity at the helm?
December 10, 2008 at 3:23 am
Getting There
Gnostic Christian… what are you views and beliefs? why gnostic?… do you not fear the kind of stuff you are treading on? on your saying that women are not to teach.. I agree BUT we can warn!!!!!!!!! We are called to lead others to Jesus, all are called by HIm to lead people to truth.. must I now keep silent if someone is on the wrong path just because I am a girl?
I don’t think a woman should stand on a pulpit and preach but I do think that women have a huge role in ministry. God has given women ample amount of compassion that needs to be used and women also contain a gift of discernment, which is what Kim is using very biblically and it is Jesus Christ we serve! The blend of traditions has nothing to do with following our saviour Jesus Christ. The rest is meaningless chitchat nonessential in topic i believe. What is important is that we are filthy rags without Jesus. Jesus died on the cross for our sins to be cleansed away. He is the one who rose again and defeated death. He is the atonement for our sins, He is the new covenant and without Jesus, there is no life.
December 10, 2008 at 3:26 am
Getting There
Might you consider please reading JOhn 10… the whole chapter. nO ONE comes to the father but by Jesus Christ, there is NO OTHER way to God!
December 10, 2008 at 3:28 am
Getting There
May you also consider reading your bible especially the WArnings to the 7 churches in revelations!
December 10, 2008 at 9:42 am
Kim
I am currently a member of a Lutheran church but I also attend a conservative Baptist church which teaches the Word from the pulpit verse by verse.. The denominations have little meaning to me. I go to gather with brothers and sisters to worship Jesus.
Women should never stay in a home where they are abused. We have laws to protect women and children.
CARM has much information…..but for those who are truly seeking answers may want to read Josh McDowells “Evidence That Demands a Verdict.” This 387 page book is extremely detailed and documented. This is from the forward and is very revealing.
I am aware of the pagan beginnings of many of the Christian holidays.(Saturnalia/Ishtar) But those who are truly converted in the Christian faith hold true to the teachings of Christ during these times. Celebrating the birth of the Creator and not the things of this world during Christmas, celebrating the resurrection of Christ at Easter. I believe God honors those who honor Him in faith, trust and obedience to His Word.
December 10, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Jeff
Thats it! I have read enough.. It’s the end times for sure!!! What else could it be? If we look at scripture what to describe or explain the envents in “our” church to today how can one conclude any thing but that? I know people have claimed this for thousands of years and yada yada yada..
But the Methodist (my church) and Lutheran (your church) “our” church praying to goddesses and mothers whoom.? What?????
Yea “good grief” well put!
I know I may be stepping out here and I not a “dooms day” kinda christian but what else could it be? I mean what, the church is going thru a phase?
Can we conclude the “end days” or not?
Any one?
December 11, 2008 at 12:31 am
Getting There
Jesus said we’d be able to see clues… all the clues are there.. it just gets worse and worse…
December 12, 2008 at 12:35 am
Gnostic Christian
Other religions and religious paths don’t spell doom or the end on their own, but hatred, fear of the unknown, and intolerance do. Ways of life end because we kill or otherwise destroy one another out of allegiance to something we believe in, not simply because another path exists.
I believe the only path to peace is for men and women to be equally respected — and that means to be listened to and solicited for opinion and knowledge — and for the races and creeds of the world to agree to disagree rather than attempt to browbeat one another to following one path over another.
Forcefulness and so-called “Bible-thumping” is a sure path to war and destruction; much like the Taliban and Al Qaeda — also religious extremists, but further along the path than, let’s say, the member of Joel’s Army — their main goal is to see every other path wiped out except for their own. They’re inherently demonic and anti-American at the same time. Guess everyone else should hide themselves, lest they be burned at the stake or reprogrammed like communists to believe how some of you people believe.
If it’s true that the meek shall inherit the earth, I suppose I must be content to watch all of the dangerous individuals wipe one another out through war, religious intolerance, fear, pride and envy.
Have a good time with your fear, paranoia, and hatred. I’ll go hang out with the intelligent people and wait until you’ve all successfully either a) killed one another off or b) get taken away on the Left Behind Express.
December 12, 2008 at 12:40 am
Gnostic Christian
I do apologize for my tone, at least a little bit, but it’s kind of frustrating to enter into a conversation where respect is supposed to be the rule and — along with finding some good conversation — also finding the same kind of fear and paranoia I was hoping to get away from!
Keep up the good work, Kim, your site is interesting, and I’m sure you’re helping someone out there!
December 12, 2008 at 3:04 pm
kim
Actually the Bible teaches that as Christians we are not to retaliate against those who ridicule and persecute us and to love our enemies. So those who truly follow Jesus Christ will emulate His willingness to lay down his life for others, not create war. Think of the Christians in the arenas with the lions. These are the true Christians. They would not deny their faith, neither would they hurt others.
May 20, 2010 at 2:14 am
Heather
Amen! Amen! Amen! I do believe that a woman can preach though, because I don’t call it preaching. She’s just teaching. She’s a teacher. Not a pastor or a father or a priest or whatever, she’s just a teacher. there’s nothing wrong with a teacher being a woman.
May 20, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Great is Diana Divine
Only the News Testiment refers to the male divine; the old testiment in hebrew refers to the Goddess of the Goddesses ie the Virgin Diana (The Divine One). Eloh, Elohim are both female words for ‘God’ ie ‘Goddess’ used in the OT, and the divine name is female; YaHweH is who she is; this is a method femalizing a word with two Hs. El Shaddai means the divine with many more breasts and is female, as is Adon-ai meaning Lady. ….Hebrew is no longer a lost language!
May 20, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Kim
I found this explanation
In appearance, YHWH is an archaic third person singular imperfect of the verb “to be”, meaning, therefore, “He is”. This explanation agrees with the meaning of the name given in Exodus 3:14, where God is represented as speaking, and hence as using the first person — “I am”. It stems from the Hebrew conception of monotheism that God exists by himself for himself, and is the uncreated Creator who is independent of any concept, force, or entity; therefore “I am that I am”.
the hebrew word for God is H430
‘elohiym
el·ō·hēm’ (Key)
Part of Speech
masculine noun
There is a definition of goddess, but this is because of the way the word is used in the Bible. from the Lexicon
The usage can be of the true God or any God…it is even used for idols. When used in is plural form it means. “of gods or deities, in general whether true or false.”
So actually when the word God is H430 is used in Exodus 12:12 it is referring to false gods.
The Bible is clear throughout….God the Father. Masculine noun
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