What is the Third Eye and why should Christians know about it.
First let’s look at Wikipedia:
The 3rd or Inner Eye – A metaphysical opening which refers to the 6th chakra (brow), that leads to higher consciousness. A new age symbol of enlightenment.
Okay… so the Third Eye is a psychic ability connected to the occult. Dictionary.com defines occult as knowledge of secret or supernatural powers, beyond the the range of ordinary senses, or secret/hidden information only available to the initiated.
Next we need to know how one “opens” this Third Eye. The main way that one opens himself up to the spirit realm, is through meditation. It is through meditation that one achieves an altered state of consciousness. Constantly you will find that meditation, or the emptying of one’s mind, is the doorway to all metaphysical activity.
Back to the 6th chakra. The chakras usually relate to yoga, but not always. The 6th chakra in yoga is the brow. When kundalini (serpent power) rises to the the brow, there is enlightenment that is characterized by light. Those using yoga as a means of enlightenment get results by meditation, forced breathing patterns and using unnatural positions to force the power at the base of the spine upwards with the crown chakra as the main goal.
Another way enlightenment occurs is through meditation and visualization. Certain techniques are used to “see” and direct the serpent power up the spine through the chakras (nerve centers/wheels).
Here is another description. The kundalini rises and then goes into the brain and then down into the pituitary gland which awakens the pineal gland. When they meet there is union. This is an initiation of the birth of passage into another dimension and beyond. This is supposed to cause an explosion of light.
The third eye is also known as:
The middle eye of Shiva in Buddhism.
In Hinduism it is the eye of clairvoyance. This Hindus wear the Tilak. The red spot between the brows. When I was researching my Goddess Worship post, I looked at a link, describing Christian women who have been applying the red spot on their forehead and worshiping each other’s divinity.
In Egypt it is known as The Eye of Horus or the Eye of Osiris.
In Freemasonry, it is the All Seeing Eye. The same one that is found on our one dollar bill. This All Seeing Eye is surrounded by light.
But the eye usually means the same…esoteric knowledge that man so desires. This eye represents the passing into a spiritual world than man has no business entering. It is forbidden because it will deceive and oppress.
In Genesis 3:5-7 For God doth know..then your eyes shall be opened and ye shall be as Gods…knowing Good and Evil….And the eyes of them both opened.
The Hebrew word for eyes is not plural but singular so what the serpent said was that their eye would be broadened by knowledge. Scripture here is not talking about the physical organ but the eye of the soul.
So for today…opening yourself up or opening your third eye is the same. It is opening a gate between two worlds. Meditation is a sure way of accomplishing this opening up of yourself especially through Contemplative prayer. This is simply meditation masked with Christian terminology. The fear that accompanies entrance into deep meditative levels is there for a reason…it is a warning from God.
I have been reading a manual for opening the third eye from, “The Awakening of the Third Eye” by Samuel Sagan.
It immediately states that meditation is not for relaxation, and that the third eye is the gate that leads within.
Here are some quotes:
“Developing the third eye is a direct way of expanding your conscious universe and discovering your essential values, so that you may fathom your own mystery.” (page 13)
“Suppose an angel comes to you, truly. If you have been trying to visualize angels every morning for a few months how will you know whether it is a true angel or one that you made up…The real problem is, once these visions come to you, how to discern what is real from what is a fancy of the mind” [page 18]
[I thought this was very interesting..he was acknowledging that visualization created visions from your own making]
“You see the universe and it’s finality completely different…It is not what you believe or what you have read that will change your spiritual life..it is what you can experience directly.” [page 18]
[See how a change of worldview is suggested here and the Bible eliminated]
“Whenever there is a vibration or a light, there is a being behind it” (page 160)
[The Bible tells us that Satan comes as a white light]
“What to do with an angel? Let its glory become alive in you…to worship a god first you have to become a god.” (page 161)
[How many times have we seen this? Almost all communications from the spirit world tell us that we are as gods, just like the serpent in Genesis]
“This tragedy is quite common. There are many people who seem to be desperate for spiritual progress. They go on crying ‘I wish God could help me’…and if you look above them, what can you see? Guides and angels who keep whispering ‘Please tune into us, please receive our light‘…If these people could tune in, they would immediately receive a shower of spiritual gifts.” (page 185)
[Light? We already know what the “light” is in the metaphysical world. It is Satan. And this shower of spiritual gifts?..hmmm..]
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Have you ever read the prophecies of those on the Elijah list? Have you ever had someone tell you that they have a continual conversation with God throughout the day? Have you listened to those who proclaim to the world that their visions are from God? Have you ever heard a prophet say that he could forgive your sins for you? Have you ever heard a TV evangelist say that “I am a God”? Have you ever attended a meeting where the “spiritual” gifts are so numerous that chaos erupts?
I do believe that spiritual gifts are available to us today for the edification of the church…I also believe that many are the products of divination, and are false. We have to discern what is God’s truth and what is man’s truth. The Bible is the deciding factor.
Is it possible that some Christians and some who claim to be Christian have opened themselves up to demonic forces and truly believe they are hearing from God, but are not? YES! That spirit guides and angels you have summoned from another metaphysical realm are holy? NO! They are not holy.
In a world that is giving way to a New Age, a new spiritual mysticism, we have to, as Christians, discern what is from God and what is not. We are to test the spirits.
I John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
I beg of you..do not practice anything that is at all similar to eastern meditation. Meditation is the common factor to all metaphysical and ungodly methods. If you have ….stop and repent…..ask God’s forgiveness.
The goal of the New Age is to unite all religions. Hold strong onto your faith in Jesus Christ. I know many reject this but…. He is indeed THE ONLY WAY.
John 14:6 “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
Also remember that Satan is a great counterfeiter and deceiver. He imitates the things of Christ. Satan is not the light. The Lord Jesus Christ is.
So this verse bears repeating.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light .
Pray daily that the Lord will give you discernment in these last days of great deception. Discern the light of the world, Jesus, from the counterfeit light of Satan’s enlightment. Many caught up in this spiritual deception and false system are experiencing the darkest time in their lives. Depression, anxiety, panic attacks seem to be common factors among those who have crossed over into this forbidden world. Those dark spirits who follow you do so because you invited them.
Jesus Christ demonstrated His power over the demonic world. Only He can cast out those dark spirits. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ who triumphed over Satan and sin on the cross. He rose again. He is our Savior and will cleanse us from sin and fill us with the Holy Spirit. Faith is trust. Trust in Him.
kim


336 comments
December 20, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Kim
I believe the Bible. The Word of God has changed my life and I have no fear of my eternal destiny. This is true liberty.
I have never heard any stats that Christians suffer more disease than anyone else. In fact in my women prayer group we have had some real miracles of healing. A shoulder was healed and a tumor disappeared.
Some occult groups/faith healers, experience temporary healings but there is a price to pay. I like this quote from Kurt E. Koch:
“The devil does not give his services free of charge.”
Most often there is oppression, depression, confusion, and fear. When i read books like A Course In Miracles, overcoming fear is a constant theme. Not so with those who follow Jesus.
Of course I disagree that Jesus did not perform miracles. They are documented in the Gospels and they were not contested by any historical writings of the time.
I have heard of the indigo children that are born with their third eye open.
Pretty much all you are saying now sounds either like a Hindu religious viewpoint, or a post-modernist who does not believe in an absolute truth. It comes from the same demonic source.
There is truth in the Bible. There is hope. There is no fear. It is rejected by many who prefer to stay in their sin. It is rejected by those who prefer to think of themselves as divine, which is found in all false religions.
I am a sinner who needs Jesus. The Bible has taught me to hate sin and therefore confess it.
I like this road i am walking because i am not walking alone. Jesus walks with those who belong to Him.
December 20, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Gma
Diet is very important. Meat is poison. Eating dead animal flesh is dangerous and unhealthy. If you are a conscious person, you will not try to harm your body that way. I know many conscious people who know to stay away from meat, alcohol, cigarettes, dairy, etc.
I have nothing against your faith, Kim, Absolutely NOTHING. All I am saying is do not be a hypocrite by saying your way is the only way there is. I have tremendous respect for every one and every religion as long as no one is trying to convert anyone to their ways.
Let me make it clear again, Kim: Your truth is not THE TRUTH even though it may be THE TRUTH for you. My truth is something else and I know it to be THE TRUTH for me. I am at peace with myself and feel no need to go out and convert someone else about my way.
MY LIBERTY ENDS WHEN ANOTHER PERSON’S LIBERTY BEGINS.
December 21, 2008 at 1:40 am
Getting There
Gma.. just think about this.. are you so sure you are right.. what happens on the day that you stand before God.. and when you have rejected the only way to Him, what will you say to the creator? just think about it… there is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ. We need a saviour, without Christ, we fall short and are condemned. Hell is a real place and you are far too precious for me to just go with what you are saying… eternity is far longer than the now and here.. your life is precious to God and this is why He sent His son as a living sacrifice for you. If you reject that, that is your choice but I would like you to seriously consider your beliefs and question it.. if you really seek the truth, ask for it and it’ll come to you.. the truth is that there is only one truth, Jesus Christ is the only way to God.
Should you disagree.. that again is your choice but I really suggest you ponder on this more … your quest for your own ‘truth’ which is a road to destruction is not what God wants for you and i know it! You obviously want to know God since you are looking into all these things but you are looking in the wrong places. IF you want to sincerely know God, ask HIm to reveal the truth to you, His son who paid the ultimate price for you! Consider this gift and consider what I have said.. you have a choice.. one brings life and the other brings death..
December 21, 2008 at 1:49 am
Getting There
Gma, I am south african.. here there are many occults, false religions and pure witch craft which God dislikes intensely!
The 3rd eye brings in total fear.. panic attacks, depression, insanity as well as bi polar… please consider and ponder on this…
December 21, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Gma
Getting There,
You ask: “what happens on the day that you stand before God”
I stand before God every single day, my Brother. God is IN me. My God is not somewhere up in the sky floating above my head.
“…and when you have rejected the only way to Him, what will you say to the creator?”
There is no “Only way to him”. Please, do not sound like a hypocrite.
“there is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ”
LOL! You are really making me laugh, my good Brother. Seriously.
“We need a saviour, without Christ, we fall short and are condemned”
Is that what the missionaries from Europe have told you? LOL!
I was born pure and clean carrying no sin that some two folks (Adam and Eve) that never existed, committed. LOL! Brother, come on now.
“your life is precious to God and this is why He sent His son as a living sacrifice for you. If you reject that, that is your choice but I would like you to seriously consider your beliefs and question it”
This is the biggest problem with Christians: they want to “save” every body, LOL. Please, worry about your own life and first live like Jesus wants you to live before you come tell others how they should live. ARE YOU SURE THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO FIX ABOUT YOURSELF? Are you sure? 😉
” that again is your choice but I really suggest you ponder on this more … your quest for your own ‘truth’ which is a road to destruction is not what God wants for you and i know it!”
I can say the same my Brother but I won’t simply because I RESPECT your WAY.
“You obviously want to know God since you are looking into all these things but you are looking in the wrong places”
I can say the same to you but again, I won’t because I respect your BELIEF. Btw, you have no idea what I look into my Beloved Brother.
“IF you want to sincerely know God, ask HIm to reveal the truth to you, His son who paid the ultimate price for you!”
You are INSULTING me Brother. Do not you ever tell me that I do not sincerely know God. I would NEVER dare tell that to any one.
First off you do not know what is my religion and if I even have a religion. All I can tell you I am not Christian. I could be a Muslim or a Buddhist, it does not matter.
Second, there is no “One way” to God. You and Kim are dead wrong here. All of us get older but no all of us GROW UP.
Please, do not tell me that my way of life is wrong because I am not telling any Christians that their way is wrong. I say RESPECT EVERY ONE’S BELIEFS.
My God doesn’t discriminate. My God Loves every single person on Earth regardless of their race, ethnicity, gender, or religious beliefs.
Muslims have their TRUTH, Buddhists have their TRUTH, Catholics have their TRUTH, the rest of the Christians have their TRUTH, Eskimos have their TRUTH, the Zulus have their TRUTHS, the Native Ameircans have their TRUTH, Aborigens have their TRUTH….
You see how ignorant you sound when you say YOUR TRUTH is the ONLY TRUTH ON EARTH?? Come out of the box. There is not JUST CHRISTIANS.
You guys need to be careful because EGO is dangerous.
December 21, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Gma
My mistake, Getting There. I just saw that you are a Sister not a Brother.
Accept my apologies.
I wish you the best on your journey.
December 21, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Kim
Oh okay…”the EGO is dangerous”. Now i see that you maybe a A Course in Miracles follower. I have studied this demonic book. It also teaches there is no sin, life is an illusion (maya), man is divine, ….etc.
This book was channeled by a Jewish woman who took dictation from another “Jesus” (spirit guide), who said that the Bible was wrong and needed to be corrected.
There is only one truth about God. Does this sound ignorant to you? Yes, i am sure it does.
But the Bible says that Jesus is the only way (John 14:6)
It also says that many will fall from the faith and listen to deceiving spirits
1 Timothy 4:1
“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.”
It is the purpose of this site to warn true brothers and sisters in Christ to be careful of false teachings. It is predicted in the Bible and of course we are seeing Biblical prophecy being fulfilled this day.
December 21, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Gma
You are some confused people, no offense. I don’t know what book you are talking about.
I checked you profile, Kim and you look like an intelligent woman. It’s a real surprise when you talk…
Your truth is not everybody else’s truth no matter how much you would like it to be. 🙂 Your truth is the truth for you and my truth is the truth for me.
Why don’t you follow the Bible and worry about yourself?
Looks like all Christians are the same 🙂
The ultimate truth is that we are all subject to the same Laws. If you jump off of a tall building you will die. Jesus won’t save you. If I jump off of a tall building I will die as well. If a Muslim jumps off, he/she will die as well
Let just live as one.
🙂
December 21, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Jeff
@Gama
Kim & Being There is correct. Also if I may, we can simply look at what has allready been revealed when he like came back from the dead and stuff?
It’s not like this is just “some story”.. There were many whitnesses from both sides that saw it. I mean how many whitnesses does it take in a court of law to prove something is true today?
Sorry for my spelling and may God Bless you with real truth.
Christ is lord,
Jeff
December 21, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Kim
GMa,
Yes, i will continue to follow the Bible and the joy is that I no longer have to worry about my eternal destination.
The issue is what will happen to us when we die! Eve took the bait from Satan when he told her “Ye shall surely not die:” She did die. The lies are the same today, death/life is an illusion, reincarnation, there is no hell…….
When i die, I am not confused about my eternal future with Jesus. Someday you will come to a fork in the road, (if you have not already) and the way you turn will either lead to eternal life with God or without God.
When the plane engine sputters and it starts going down, people call upon the name of Jesus. But will it be too late?
December 21, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Jeff
Gama,
What happens to you when you die? If reincarnation then who decieds what you come back as?
Christ is lord,
Jeff
December 21, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Gma
You seriously believe in the story of creation? Which one you believe in and why, as there are two stories of creation in Genesis?
The Bible is a metaphysical book and most Christians do not understand it.
Also, the book was altered many times and a lot of text was take out.
King James is the one who translated it to English with no authority. He was a homosexual just like Michaelangelo who painted the well known picture of the blue-eyed blond Jesus.
Beliefs….
The picture of Jesus is Michaelangelo’s cousin.
Jeff,
“What happens to you when you die?”
I don’t know because have not experienced death yet.
If I ask you the question all you can tell me is what you BELIEVE happens because really you have NO ideal.
Jeff,
But I am sure you know what happens after you die. Please tell me. LOL
December 21, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Kim
Gma,
You are beginning to sound desperate.
Here is a short except from a brief history of the King James Bible
Although fifty-four men were nominated, only forty-seven were known to have taken part in the work of translation. The translators were organized into six groups, and met respectively at Westminster, Cambridge, and Oxford. Ten at Westminster were assigned Genesis through 2 Kings; seven had Romans through Jude. At Cambridge, eight worked on 1 Chronicles through Ecclesiastes, while seven others handled the Apocrypha. Oxford employed seven to translate Isaiah through Malachi; eight occupied themselves with the Gospels, Acts, and Revelation.
Fifteen general rules were advanced for the guidance of the translators:
source:
http://www.av1611.org/kjv/kjvhist.html
here is information on the original manuscripts
http://www.carm.org/questions/rewritten.htm
Also if you would please condense your comments into one box, it would be a considerate move to not push anothers comment off of the Home page….thank you…kim
December 21, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Jeff
so why you askn there gma? LOL
December 21, 2008 at 6:26 pm
Gma
Thank you for all your time. I hope you wake up one day :- )
http://twelvehp.com/intheimageofmanmovie.wmv
December 21, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Kim
Gma,
I thank you for coming to my site….I think the Lord led you to it.
I cannot open the link you gave me.
God Bless…
December 21, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Getting There
Gma.. this is probably all foolishness to you.. but this is just because you choose not to see it. How can there be more than one truth? there is no middle ground.. there is truth and there is error.
Your ‘wiseness’ is making me overly joyous that you label me a fool. I am glad to be a fool and simply trust God and the bible. you calling me a fool is a compliment!
Jesus is the only way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father but by Him! That IS Truth! and one day, I pray you see that!
December 21, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Gma
Ok my Beloved people, my last message to you is:
YOU HAVE ALL THE TRUTH and any one who’s belief is different (including me), is going to hell if we never come to your TRUTH.
That is not a question but just a statement.
🙂
I hope this satisfy you although I know you would be way more satisfied if I became one of you so we can meet in heaven 🙂
Have a blessed day and thank you all for this reasoning.
Gma
December 22, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Jeff
Gma,
I can’t tell you the answer because you don’t have the secret ” pass word.”LOL
I will say however ;that I LOVE the way you write! Your wit is FANTASTIC! I mean that!
(Indeed i wish you were on are side your very funny!)
Mabie some day I too will be that good as “I can do all things thru Christ who strenthens me”Corithians 5:3 Again sorry for the bad spelling.
In Christ.
December 22, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Jeff
sorry “our side” LOL
I am sure the thought of me being as good as you has rolling on the floor now(I can hear you from here!) LOL stop makn fun of me !
Anyway nice chatn with you.
Christ is lord,
Jeff-)
December 22, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Getting There
Jeff.. hello…. hmmm witty too huh!
December 22, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Jeff
Not like you SWEETY!
December 24, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Gma
Lol Jeff, you have no idea how hilarious you are 🙂 But thanks, man! All of us are unique in some way.
Merry Christmass to you and the rest of the crew.
Don’t have to wish me that since I don’t celebrate it 🙂
Much love to you all.
Peace
December 24, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Jeff
Gma,
These spirtiual masters, leaders or guides, Did any of them master death?
And thanks for the compliment. . . I think LOL
Christ is lord.
December 24, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Kim
Gma,
Thank you for the sentiment and i pray that the Lord Jesus Christ will soften your heart.
In Christ’s love,
kim
December 24, 2008 at 11:11 pm
Gma
Jeff, I KNOW that nobody knows what happens after death, no matter what they say. God blessed me with a brain so I don’t believe everything someone says or everything a book says.
Kim, let’s not start the religious back and forth again. It got us nowhere the last time. Please don’t say that my heart is not soft. I don’t think it’s right for you to say that. Come on Beloved, you don’t even know me nor do you know my heart.
Peace!
December 25, 2008 at 1:08 am
Jeff
is it really total piece or does it go away somtimes?
In Christ.
I am praying for you now…
December 25, 2008 at 1:51 am
Jeff
Gma,
No one converts anyone it dosnt work that way.
We know that is above the pay grade for any of us…
Nice chatn with you.
Sending my love to you thru Christ Jesus,
Jeff)
December 25, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Getting There
Gma, praying for you.. I don’t know everything but there is one thing I do know that I know that I know with all my heart and that is that Jesus Christ is Lord! and no one knows God unless they know Jesus.
All the best to you and yours!
December 25, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Gma
“I do know that I know that I know with all my heart and that is that Jesus Christ is Lord”
And I am happy for you that you found your way.
“…and no one knows God unless they know Jesus.”
That is your opinion and I respect it, Beloved.
“is it really total piece or does it go away somtimes?”
It is really total Peace, Beloved.
“I am praying for you now…”
Do not forger serial killers and child molesters.
Peace!
December 25, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Jeff
“the truth is there is only one truth” ..That is so true!
Man GTH, you should copy wright that one!
Your brotha from anotha,
Jeff
December 25, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Jeff
Gma,
“I am praying for you now” as in looking down on you is NOT what I meant AT ALL.(Sorry my poor writing skills again.)
“don’t forgo serial killers and etc.” wow! I don’t think I’m allowed to lauph at that one(but I do admire the risk you took here. But that’s just me.)On a serious note;No one is to far gone to be saved.
Again it has been nice chatn with you but for me anyway it is now dust time.
Prayers for you and your fam.
Christ IS Lord.)
December 25, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Jeff
ps. Nor would I lauph at that..sorry..
Duh!(writing skills..)
December 25, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Jeff
I think in my attemp to turn the other cheek I may have just glorified EVIL.
Forgive brothers & sister..oops!
Gma,
After trying to find some good there, I am sorry but I can not….Nice Try!..
There is nothing I admire about that most vile comment.
However I forgive you for the failed snare.
Christ is lord,
Jeff
December 26, 2008 at 1:57 am
Gma
“I think in my attemp to turn the other cheek I may have just glorified EVIL.
Forgive brothers & sister..oops!
Gma,
After trying to find some good there, I am sorry but I can not….Nice Try!..
There is nothing I admire about that most vile comment.
However I forgive you for the failed snare.”
What do you mean? I am lost.
December 26, 2008 at 8:51 am
Getting There
Gma, the thing is.. praying for you does not mean I look down on you in any way.. but as Jeff has put it.. i guess it’s time to brush off the dust and move on… which means the rest is up to you.. we have told you what truth is and now it’s your choice to go your way.. which is a broad destructive path or go the narrow way which leads to salvation in Christ. The fact that we tell you these things are not to bring you down or anything it is because it is a natural thing for us to give people the good news.. Jesus Christ is good news and salvation is good news..
imagine I had a cure for aids.. do I keep that cure to myself or tell I tell people I have a cure(at the risk of offending someone) No I tell as many people as possible! There is no other way to God but through Jesus and if you make Jesus your Lord, repent of your sins (we all are sinners! not one person is righteous before the most Holy God.. we are mere dust..) rely, trust and have faith in Jesus then you will be saved. This is good news and it is something we are naturally wanting to share. Now the good news has been told and if you reject it.. the conversation is over.. we brush the dust off and move on to someone else who will hear and believe.
It is my prayer that you do seek more and see the lies that you have been taught. I myself was in serious false teaching and I started praying and seeking and knocking and Jesus is the Only way! It’s the Truth! The truth is sometimes hard to hear but the truth will set you free. Freedom from falseness, freedom from performance, freedom to know that God who is the only Holy one chose to be a sacrifice for sinners. Would you die for someone that murdered, lied, back stabed you? I don’t think so, but Jesus did, He paid the ultimate price. He was God in the Flesh! He became the lamb that was slain, a precious atonement for our sins. WE are not righteous in our own strength.
I cannot do the 10 commandments as much as my heart desires to.. I am dirt but through Christ I have been set free from my sins and a new life in Christ is mine.
You choose… life or death, but I pray dear Gma, choose Life!!!!
December 26, 2008 at 8:59 am
Getting There
Jesus was God in the Flesh… to say you don’t believe in Jesus would be to say you don’t believe in God.. if you do not know HIm, you do not know God! Jesus was God in the flesh!
December 26, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Gma
Getting There, I like your energy, Beloved! 🙂
“we have told you what truth is”
You didn’t have to. I already know what truth is 🙂
“There is no other way to God but through Jesus and if you make Jesus your Lord”
That is your opinion, Beloved, and I respect it. But that is all it is, your opinion or your truth. 🙂
“It is my prayer that you do seek more and see the lies that you have been taught”
I have not been taught any lies. I don’t seek anyone’s help when it comes to Spirituality. I don’t fall for anyone else’s belief systems nor do I accept them. Spirituality is something very personal.
“if you do not know HIm, you do not know God”
Again Beloved, that is only your opinion and I respect. You can say that as many times as you wish and it will still be an opinion. 🙂 I am sorry.
The conversion of me to your truth has failed. 🙂
Be at Peace with yourself and be confident. If your religion or faith works for you, then stick to it. I will respect you for that as long as you are respectful to others.
NO ONE should question the faith of others for no one can judge the ways of GOD.
Peace and Love.
December 26, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Kim
Gma,
I guess the truth that we here know about ourselves is that we are sinners. Even though we believe in Jesus, we still sin. I judge wrongly, i have impure thoughts, i get angry when i should be instead kind.
Have you ever lusted over someone? Told a lie? Cheated on your taxes? If you have then you have sinned before God.
God is holy, just and righteous and we as sinners cannot stand before Him. This is why the Bible says “The wages of sin is death” Romans 6:23
God is also a merciful God so Jesus was sent to save man. This is what He did on the cross. He took your punishment for you. He paid the price. He paid the ticket. Because God is love He came in the form of a man and took your place on the cross.
Why doesn’t God just forgive without punishment? There is always a price to pay for sin. There is always a cost.
If you were to forgive someone for lying to you, who bears the cost? You do. You bear the pain of the problem of being lied to. But this is what Jesus has done for all of us. No other “spiritual leader” can offer this way of forgiveness for salvation. And since we are NOT god ourselves (the original lie), we cannot do it on our own.
Therefore there is no other way but Jesus.
Many do have peace and love here on earth without having a personal relationship with Jesus, but the time spent here on earth compared to eternity is just a snap of the fingers. A mist evaporating in the wind.
So there will be many who will receive their earthly reward while they are living here but in the long run, will lose all… putting their faith in themselves instead of the true and living God.
That is why i have repented, turned away from sin, called upon the name of Jesus and i believe what He did on the cross. Doing so has given me a thirst for the Word of God, because i know that is where the truth lies. The result has been a changed life.
My changed life is evidence, not opinion.
December 26, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Gma
“Therefore there is no other way but Jesus.”
That is your opinion, Beloved. We think we know it all but in fact we don’t know anything… and that goes to ALL of us.
What if we are all wrong?
December 26, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Gma
My life has changed too and that is evidence as well. But the FACT is that it doesn’t have to be the same things that changes our lives.
December 26, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Kim
Well here are the things that changed my life.
I have received forgiveness for my sin, I forever belong to God, I do not fear judgment, and i have the assurance of eternal life after die.
Yes, i agree that whatever has changed your life, has nothing to do with Jesus who is the giver of eternal life.
December 26, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Kim
Earlier there were references to shaking the dust off, here is the verse:
Mar 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
So indeed it is now up to you.
December 26, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Jeff
gma,
One last comment, I hope and pray that indeed you find Christ one day.
I understand that it may not happen today or tomorrow. In the past words of my father “God does things his own way and in his own time”
In loving memory:
Dr.Thomas Albert Starnes Sr…)
December 26, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Jeff
………………………..CHRIST IS LORD!
December 27, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Gma
Ok 🙂
December 27, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Gma
Whatever works for you, stick with it and I will stick with whatever works for me.
I will keep using the powerful gift that God gave me.. my brain. Many are called but only a few are chosen. I trod my own patch…
I follow NO man, so please save your “I hope you will find Christ” etc. That just won’t work. I don’t vibe with missionaries, LOL 🙂
Kim, I think that you need to be a little more humble, God will LOVE it, believe me 🙂
God is glad you have found Her/Him and wants you to also let others find Her/Him on their own.
You are not any greater in God’s “eyes” than I am. I’m sorry 🙂 Did that disappoint you? I know, I know, you thought you were “above” me, LOL 🙂
Humbleness is very important, my Sister.
Peace and Love as always!
December 27, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Kim
No… What you said does not disappoint me at all. Because i am nothing. I am nothing without Christ.
December 27, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Kim
“Many are called but only a few are chosen”
This Bible verse you quoted is Matthew 22:14 and it is from the parable of “The man without a wedding garment”.
“But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment. So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ For many are called, but few are chosen.”
Those who are trying to establish their own righteousness before God are like the man who thought he could clothe himself.
“For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God”. (Romans 10:3)
Also the God of the Bible, The God of Abraham, is not a female God. Female gods are mythological/pagan gods.
December 27, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Gma
Uff, I am so glad I removed all the religious software that was installed in my head 🙂
Oh, and btw, is the United States, a Christian nation?
December 27, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Kim
No, it is no longer a Christian nation. The churches themselves are quickly falling quickly into deceit and no longer worship the God of the Bible but false teachers and teachings. The Nt is full of these warnings, but no one reads the Bible anymore, except the remnant, the true believers.
Luke 18:8 “..Nevertheless when the Son of Man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?”
2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them-bringing swift destruction on themselves.
Gma…you are among the majority…i am pleased to stay in the minority.
Mat 7:14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
December 27, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Jeff
gma,
Would you be so kind to tone your remarks down with the ladies. Please..
In Christ,
Jeff
December 27, 2008 at 7:58 pm
Common Sense
I have been reading these posts for sometime now and I don’t understand some of this at all. So Kim the average working man who works all week to feed his family is a nonbeliver and he is going to go to hell because he works his *** off to keep his family fed?
December 27, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Kim
No one goes to hell for working to keep his family fed, we are supposed to take care of one another.
Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Christ. This is different from religion which is man trying to work his way to God through good works. Jesus came to us as the Son of God so that we could be forgiven of sin, so that we could have a way to be able to come to God.
We were created by God and He desires our worship. There has to be more to life than working just to pay the bills and to buy stuff. So many seek God for the answers.
The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the answer. He came for us. He died for us. And He rose again. This is what the cross is about. He shed His blood for our sin. He is the Son of God and believing in Him gives eternal life. He tugs at the heart of those willing to listen to the Word of God. Understanding that the 10 Commandments were given to us to show us that we cannot keep from sinning is paramount.This is proof that we need a Saviour.
Once we truly believe we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit as a seal, a guarantee of our redemption and salvation. But we must repent of our sin and turn away from our old ways. Then we must turn our lives over to the Lord.
The Bible tells us Jesus is coming again. He is coming as a judge. So yes we must be ready, believe in Him, or face judgment for rejecting Him. We must be cleansed of our sin, knowing that He is merciful.
https://kimolsen.wordpress.com/gods-plan-of-salvation/
December 27, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Gma
“you are among the majority…i am pleased to stay in the minority”
Humble up, Good Woman, and let God be the judge. Your ego is unbelievable. But you are not special as most Christians have it. 🙂
Peace and Love
December 27, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Kim
Gma,
You use smiley faces and phrases like peace and love but you ridicule and persecute me for my faith in Jesus Christ which is a minority….
Mat 5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Rom 12:14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.
I will pray for you and ask that you will receive many blessings.
December 27, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Gma
“you ridicule and persecute me for my faith in Jesus Christ”
I would never even attempt to do that so I don’t know what you are talking about. Your faith is your faith, my faith is my faith.
And why not use smiley faces? 🙂 I have never seen you use one? You never smile when you talk with someone who has a different faith than yours? 🙂
December 27, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Getting There
Gma, you should re read your comments…. the truth is that you are attracted to truth because you are still here discussing this and you know that just maybe you are sincere, but sincerely wrong!
We are nothing but dust, the one we boast of is Jesus Christ and it is Him who we share! We do have confidence and boldness to proclaim the good news and in that we have humility because we are not preaching our own righteousness (like yourself) we speak of the righteousness of Christ! It is Him who we exhalt, not ourselves!
and common sense.. as hard as you work, if you do not believe that Jesus is lOrd… I hope for your sake that you never lied and obeyed all the ten commandents.. go through them 1 by 1 and see if you are righteous enough for heaven… I know I am not without Christ!
You should dig deep into Jewish tradition. Those years they would sacrifice a lamb as atonement for their sins. They could never approach God as they knew that they were not righteous and God cannot stand sin, He loves the sinner but not the sin. (a bad thought is even sin)… anyway they had a high priest that would talk on the people’s behalf and would sacrifice the lamb, blood was shed for them… they had to do this often this was the old covenant. Jesus came and He is the new covenant, He is the lamb that is an atonement for our sins. WE all fall short, not one person is righteous.. it is Only through Christ and the cleansing of His HOly blood, HIs perfect mercy and grace that I can say I have confidence in Him to cleanse me of my sin. I certainly do not have confidence in my own righteousness..
You gma sound very arogant, it is strange that you would tell us to humble up… one day you will bow before the most High God and if you do not accept His son, you will kick yourself.. the bible says there will be gnashing of teeth..
Question, have you read your bible lately?
Biblical
Instructions
Before
Leaving
Earth..
and if you don’t understand the bible, ask God for His grace to show you what you need… although we have given and told you all we can…
I will not give you much more that what I have because you are adamant that you have all the answers… you are attracted to truth but you constantly dismiss it. Why are you still here?
I really hope for you that you get off your self righteous, “holy” attitude and see that you have sinned before God! I too have sinned but by the grace of Christ, God is merciful, slow to anger and quick to forgive!
December 27, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Getting There
Exodus 20
The Ten Commandments
And God spoke all these words:
2 “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
3 “You shall have no other gods before [a] me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.
7 “You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.
8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you.
13 “You shall not murder.
14 “You shall not commit adultery.
15 “You shall not steal.
16 “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”
18 When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance 19 and said to Moses, “Speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die.”
20 Moses said to the people, “Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning.”
21 The people remained at a distance, while Moses approached the thick darkness where God was.
Idols and Altars
22 Then the LORD said to Moses, “Tell the Israelites this: ‘You have seen for yourselves that I have spoken to you from heaven: 23 Do not make any gods to be alongside me; do not make for yourselves gods of silver or gods of gold.
24 ” ‘Make an altar of earth for me and sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, [b] your sheep and goats and your cattle. Wherever I cause my name to be honored, I will come to you and bless you. 25 If you make an altar of stones for me, do not build it with dressed stones, for you will defile it if you use a tool on it. 26 And do not go up to my altar on steps, lest your nakedness be exposed on it.’
December 27, 2008 at 10:53 pm
Getting There
now tell me truthfully, are you living up to the ten commandments?
In all honesty, I can’t.. I have coveted.. lied, I have gossiped, I have hated.. If you hate it is the same as murder… I have in no way and am in no way able to live up to this! But praise God for His son, Jesus Christ who saved me from my sins and I now know I do not have to fear because I have Jesus as My Lord and Saviour!