don’t recall exactly how it started or when the decisive moment was. I do not know how I got to the point of being so deeply entrenched in apostasy and deception. I can not definitively point to one moment and declare that that is when the deception began and my destructive course was charted. I simply don’t know. What I do know is that I was convinced. I was convinced of my being on the right path. I was one of God’s chosen, His elite, His enlightened ones. “Get into the River” was our mantra and our manifesto. In my home church they called us the River People, and I was hopelessly immersed. Those that loved me enough had tried to warn me. However, I did not want to listen to those I perceived as being beneath me spiritually. They simply did not understand the river’s flow, I reasoned. No, I wanted nothing to do with their life-vests; I was happy being adrift.
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Full story of Part One read HERE
Adrift in the River of God- Part Two
After my first summer at Morningstar I enrolled in their ministry school. As Joyner was quick to point out, it was not a Bible school per se. The emphasis was on prophesy, dreams, visions, and the supernatural. We were being trained for the coming harvest and what Joyner referred to as the coming civil war in the church. He was quick to tell us that we represented the blues. Like the ocean and the sky, blue stood for revelation and expanse, spiritual enlightenment, and openness of spirit.
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We were special, a new breed. We were Joel’s army who would go forth victoriously to build the kingdom of heaven on earth.
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……..Did I have a gift? Was this gift truly from God? If this gift was from God, was this the way He wanted me to use it? What if the gift was not from God? What if I had been engaging in soul reading or fortune telling? I believed in the gifts of the Spirit but something suddenly felt very wrong.
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Full story of Part Two read HERE
Part Three to follow
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I was exposed to Rick Joyner and Morningstar in 92 or 93. The first and only book of his that I read was The Final Quest. What a strange book. The friends who were deep into this stuff are still into it 16 years later. They all think that they are prophets and I can’t say that any of their prophecies have come to pass. I remember one lady prophesying over her daughter that she would have 3 kids- she now has 5. The other daughter was to have 7, she has 2. She prophesied over me regarding my future husband and she really missed that one. She told me that I was a prophet because I see the world in black and white and that I needed to go to the school of prophecy. Thank goodness that never happened. We left the charismatic church in 2005 and will NEVER return. The Vineyard in the town where we live is heavy into Morningstar. That church is growing faster than any in this town. They preach a very watered down version of the Gospel. They have gone as far as to have a bar at events. I guess it appeals to the general population. It kind of makes me sick. What makes me sad is that the people who are involved do have an attitude that they are more enlightened than others and will not listen to TRUTH. 😦
By JM on November 23, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Thanks JM,
When I was on prescription drugs I received a prophecy that a city was going to be destroyed in two weeks. Didn’t happen. Doubts crept in and finally the truth came out.
I had been enlightened all right….”Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.” This verse is found in 2 Corinthians 11:14. This section in my Bible is called Paul and the False Apostles.
I found it interesting in Mishel’s story that the people do not read the Bible at Morningstar…. consider this quote
When biblical truths are ignored there will be deception.
By Kim on November 23, 2008 at 6:21 pm
HI! I visited a few churches as a baby Christian,where they were calling down ‘fire’ -Jesus was holding me back fr going up for any prayer up front-He was warning me that their fire was not His at all!
Leviticus 10:1
And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not.
I cam fr a alcoholic family backround and so when i went into places where people were totally wrecked I was dumbfouded- I went home very troubled by all this confusion and asked Jesus to explain to me what was wrong or was it just me- He gave me Jeremiah 13 (please read chapter) as a dire warning to stear clear-
The church I had visited was on a small hill and Jesus gave me this when I was at home>
Proverbs 9:13-18(KJV)
13A foolish woman is clamorous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing.
14For she sitteth at the door of her house, on a seat in the high places of the city,
15To call passengers who go right on their ways:
16Whoso is simple, let him turn in hither: and as for him that wanteth understanding, she saith to him,
17Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant.
18But he knoweth not that the dead are there; and that her guests are in the depths of hell.
There is a very strong seducing spirit that is associated with this ‘movement’
It is a polluted river with a very strong underto-if you tread in in long enough you could be pulled under- Better stay near the streams that Jesus gives you> the water is clean and there is peace there.. Blessing for all of you who have been hurt and are still healing.
Psalm 46:4-5 (King James Version)
4There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.
5God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.
By Sarai on October 12, 2010 at 10:16 am
Sarai,
You have great discernment and you went to prayer and God’s Word for help. I wish more would follow your example.
By Kim on October 12, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Hi! This is Mishel the author of the article above “Adrift in the River of God.” My book, The View Beneath is now available on Amazon for any who might be interested. It is part testimony and part expose and contains a great deal of new and alarming information about Rick Joyner, MorningSar and the New Apostolic Reformation movement at large. It is also available on kindle.
Again, it is called “A View Beneath” by Mishel McCumber. 🙂
By Mishel McCumber on October 12, 2016 at 5:50 pm
Thank you so much for the info. Look forward to ordering your book.
By Kim on October 12, 2016 at 6:05 pm