Bud Press just sent out this new information and I am flabbergasted. Where will this end? How far will the extreme prophetic go? Oh Lord come quickly!
This last video leaves absolutely no doubt the nature of this dancing. Listen for these phrases:
“Kundalini Dance”
“Running the Power back to ourselves”
“Altered states through repetitive rhythms”
There is nothing Christian about Ekstasis worship. It is paganism all the way through. Do not be deceived.
19 comments
July 25, 2008 at 3:38 pm
ahug
What makes it paganism? It may not be traditional within the realm of Christianity, but how different is it to dance to music than to sway to the rhythm of gospel? Most people are moved by the sound of music, why not similarly in worship? I don’t see any inappropriate contact between the participating members in any of these images.
Eccentricity should not be identified as a heathen characteristic.
July 25, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Deacon
Usher: Hey Deak, let’s start a new movement, name it something noone will question
Deacon: Why would we do that and what would we name it?
Usher: For the money and the fame of course. We could call it Buzaineist worship
Deacon: What the heck is that?
Usher: Buzzards doing cocaine – makes as much sense as the videos above…..what a goofy bunch of idiots
Deacon: Is there no hope for people who fall for this foolishness?
July 25, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Kim
Hi..ahug.
The last video comes right out and calls it kundalini. Hindu Kundalini translates into serpent power. Anything that alters your consciousness allows for the entrance of the kundalini spirit. This is certainly something that Christians need to stay away from. But they are not…they are instead embracing it.. and this hurts my heart for Jesus.
I just heard a story about missionaries who were saving native people in Africa. When their teenagers played their CD’s the natives ran from them calling it “music of the demons”. They said they has just been saved from this very thing. Rock music, repetitive music, with a heavy beat has been a problem since the 60’s. it is mesmerizing. I know…. i grew up in the 60’s/70’s. I will stay with the old-time hymns. (if i can find a church who still sings them, that is!!!)
July 25, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Tim H
Wow… Well the last video reminds me of the days in the 60’s and 70’s hippie stuff. Almost looks like Woodstock doesn’t it?
When the guy says in the second video “you don’t have to study the word any longer” I shut it down. There is nothing Christlike in this, it is nothing more than self-man-made-vain-imagination and I am sorry ahug, It has no redeeming value to it at all.
It is ungodly, period. What is being taught and seen here is a lie. But here we go, teach a young generation the wrong stuff and they truely will change the face of Christainity.
My heart really breaks to see so many young people fall for this deception as a form of worship.
July 25, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Tim H
I am sitting at my desk just shaking my head. It makes prophetic worship as taught in th early days almost biblical. Man, I just can’t believe what I have heard.
July 25, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Kim
Tim,
When Bud Press sent the link over, he too made mention of the “you don’t have to study the word any longer” statement.
You are right it does look like Woodstock. A portal to hell, worship of demons.
July 25, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Tim H
3rd video at the end…
http://www.shambhala.com/html/about/defined.cfm see here for definition of Shambhala
Luna = Goddess of Moon
Solus = By ones self; alone
so now we mix ekstasis in with Christianity and because we add God to it? it is alright? Not!
July 25, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Tim H
opps did my last comment go to spam?
July 25, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Kim
yeah, and i don’t know why…but i fixed it…I have been having problems lately with comments and wordpress having a mind of its own.
July 25, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Mary B
yes, I saw this a couple of weeks ago and I have to say I felt total seducing spirits. I used to go to clubs with the same atmosphere and it was no different than this. Usually they had these gel lights that projected on the wall and it was very mezmerizing and trance inducing. Very much like the mind altering 60’s atmosphere.
This is total paganism. What is with the obscession with the cellular level and DNA that Patricia King, Stacey Campbell, and this DJ mention. It’s really bizarre.
Ahug, please don’t fall for this stuff. I can’t say it’s not worship. I think it is. But to the wrong god. This is not the kind of worship God requires. THis is just what I imagine Moses encountered when he descended Mount Sinai only to find the Israelites worshiping the golden calf.
July 25, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Kim
Ahug…
Here is good article i saw at The Great Apostasy: “Ed’s” daughter gives an account of attending a Christian concert called the “Creation Fest”
http://thegreatapostasy.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/is-this-revival-or-simply-an-empty-religious-experience/
July 26, 2008 at 1:03 pm
totaltransformation
Reminds me of a charismatic church I attended back in the 90s. Wow.
July 29, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Simon NZ
sorry but you have mixed the first two videos which are christian and have an annointing on them with the third which is full on New Age I find it hard to believe you cant discern the difference and are just lumping them all together
July 29, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Kim
I am aware of the differences of the videos. The third one does not pretend to be Christian.
July 29, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Lee
Simon NZ,
I’m disappointed that you cannnot see that these are really the same thing. Prior to my conversion I used to do the club scene. The music, like this music here, was all synthetic rhythm and short on melody. This is perfect for inducing hypnotic states and altered states of consciousness — a perfect way to invite deceptive spirits.
July 29, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Tim H
Simon NZ,
Why is it that when the church does something that is from New Age or other form of worldly “religion” or “cult” that we think it is alright just because you put God into it or say it is being attributed to the Holy Spirit?
God is adamant about staying away from such things and yet the church (Charismatic fringe) mixes them together and calls it good! Where is your discernment brother?
My statement to you would be the same thing I would ask a JW or Mormon, “If you really knew what the Bible says you wouldn’t be deceived by these things, these false teachings.” So, I ask you the same questions.
Do you know the scriptures in context to their teachings or are you another “experiencial only” person with no real doctrine or theological understanding? What has happened to the churches Love for Christ and His truth and being obedient to what He says He has commanded that was written down for us to follow in the scriptures?
This teaching on Ektasis is nowhere found in the scriptures, that, are “sufficient for life”. It is to be avoided. I don’t believe the first two videos do have an anointing in the sense that you think. Listen to what the young man is really teaching. Can you support that scripturally? Can you judge it and test it from the scriptures? ABSOLUTELY NO!
July 30, 2008 at 5:54 am
beyondgrace
The third video is not a surprise because it does not pretend to be christian, its just the typical new age garbage. No pretense.
Heres an extended mix of DJ Caleb with Patricia Cocking/Coking/King
To see this Ekstasis Worship pretend to be christian is really scary. If you have any discernment at all you will sense this clip as MORE demonic than the new age clip.
And to think that I have trouble watching the golden calf rave scene in “the Ten Commandments.”
-Bill Fawcett
July 30, 2008 at 8:31 am
Kim
Bill,
Thank you for posting this clip. This is some of most hypnotic music i think i have ever listened to. It is very easy to see how this will draw someone in, mesmerize them, and all the while being told that they are being “holy”. My stomach turns in grief.
We are told that in the last days evil will be called good, and good, evil. This is perfect example of evil being called “holy”.
Just before i started reading your comment i had been thinking of when Moses came down off that mountain and the people were frenzied in dance and revelry, because i woke up this morning with this scripture in mind.
At the end Patricia King says “we give you permission to be wild”, that they are in a “holy riot”.
This behavior is in total opposition of holiness, evidenced by the wrath of God when He saw what the people were doing.
July 31, 2008 at 12:04 am
Bud Press
Hello Everyone:
I was blessed with Christian parents. One thing my mom taught me many years ago was “Read the fine print” in documents, and “Listen carefully to the words from those claiming to be Christian.”
Concerning the above video with Patricia King and Caleb Brundidge, it is extremely important for Christians to “Listen” to their words, then compare their words with what we know what God has already said.
And if their words contradict God’s word, then their words must be rejected, and God’s word must be upheld–regardless of personal feelings or ideas.
“Now I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them. For such men are slaves, not of our Lord Christ but of their own appetites; and by their smooth and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting” (Romans 16:17-18).
“Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ” (Colossians 2:8).
“He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it” (Titus 1:9).
While false prophets and false teachers reach out to the Christian in many ways, they ALL wear painted smiles. On the outside, they honor Jesus with their lips, but on the inside their hearts are far from Him. Their worship of Jesus is in vain, for their teachings are not of what God has already established, but rules taught by men (Matthew 15:8-9).
What may read, look, and sound good on the outside may be deadly on the inside.
God bless,
Bud