“How to Try the Spirits” is from Tozer’s book, “Man, The Dwelling Place of God”, and I found it to be even more relevant today than when it was written. There are 7 sections dealing with how to test spiritual experiences by asking “How has it affected my attitude toward and my relation to:”
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God
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Christ
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The Holy Scriptures
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Self
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Other Christians
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The World
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Sin
How to Try the Spirits
THESE ARE THE TIMES that try men’s souls. The Spirit has spoken expressly that in the latter times some should depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron. Those days are upon us and we cannot escape them; we must triumph in the midst of them, for such is the will of God concerning us.
Strange as it may seem, the danger today is greater for the fervent Christian than for the lukewarm and the self-satisfied. The seeker after God’s best things is eager to hear anyone who offers a way by which he can obtain them. He longs for some new experience, some elevated view of truth, some operation of the Spirit that will raise him above the dead level of religious mediocrity he sees all around him, and for this reason he is ready to give a sympathetic ear to the new and the wonderful in religion, particularly if it is presented by someone with an attractive personality and a reputation for superior godliness.
Now our Lord Jesus. that great Shepherd of the sheep, has not left His flock to the mercy of the wolves. He has given us the Scriptures, the Holy Spirit and natural powers of observation, and He expects us to avail ourselves of their help constantly. “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good,” said Paul (I Thess. 5:21) . “Beloved, believe not every spirit,” wrote John, “but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world” (I John 4:1) . “Beware of false prophets,” our Lord warned, “which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves” (Matt. 7:15). Then He added the word by which they may be tested, “Ye shall know them by their fruits.”
From this it is plain not only that there shall be false spirits abroad, endangering our Christian lives, but that they may be identified and known for what they are. And of course once we become aware of their identity and learn their tricks their power to harm us is gone. “Surely in vain the net is spread in the sight of any bird” (Prov. 1:17)
It is my intention to set forth here a method by which we may test the spirits and prove all things religious and moral that come to us or are brought or offered to us by anyone. And while dealing with these matters we should keep in mind that not all religious vagaries are the work of Satan. The human mind is capable of plenty of mischief without any help from the devil. Some persons have a positive genius for getting confused, and will mistake illusion for reality in broad daylight with the Bible open before them. Peter had such in mind when he wrote, “Our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction” (II Pet. 3:15, 16).
It is unlikely that the confirmed apostles of confusion will read what is written here or that they would profit much if they did; but there are many sensible Christians who have been led astray but are humble enough to admit their mistakes and are now ready to return unto the Shepherd and Bishop of their souls. These may be rescued from false paths. More important still, there are undoubtedly large numbers of persons who have not left the true way but who want a rule by which they can test everything and by which they may prove the quality of Christian teaching and experience as they come in contact with them day after day throughout their busy lives. For such as these I make available here a little secret by which I have tested my own spiritual experiences and religious impulses for many years.
Briefly stated the test is this: This new doctrine, this new religious habit, this new view of truth, this new spiritual experience how has it affected my attitude toward and my relation to God, Christ, the Holy Scriptures, self, other Christians, the world and sin. By this sevenfold test we may prove everything religious and know beyond a doubt whether it is of God or not. By the fruit of the tree we know the kind of tree it is. So we have but to ask about any doctrine or experience, What is this doing to me? and we know immediately whether it is from above or from below.
1) One vital test of all religious experience is how it affects our relation to God, our concept of God and our attitude toward Him. God being who He is must always be the supreme arbiter of all things religious. The universe came into existence as a medium through which the Creator might show forth His perfections to all moral and intellectual beings: “I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another” (Isa. 42:8) . “Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created” (Rev. 4:11).
The health and balance of the universe require that in all things God should be magnified. “Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised; and his greatness is unsearchable.” God acts only for His glory and whatever comes from Him must be to His own high honor. Any doctrine, any experience that serves to magnify Him is likely to be inspired by Him. Conversely, anything that veils His glory or makes Him appear less wonderful is sure to be of the flesh or the devil.
The heart of man is like a musical instrument and may be played upon by the Holy Spirit, by an evil spirit or by the spirit of man himself. Religious emotions are very much the same, no matter who the player may be. Many enjoyable feelings may be aroused within the soul by low or even idolatrous worship. The nun who kneels “breathless with adoration” before an image of the Virgin is having a genuine religious experience. She feels love, awe and reverence, all enjoyable emotions, as certainly as if she were adoring God. The mystical experiences of Hindus and Sufis cannot be brushed aside as mere pretense. Neither dare we dismiss the high religious flights of spiritists and other occultists as imagination. These may have and sometimes do have genuine encounters with something or someone beyond themselves. In the same manner Christians are sometimes led into emotional experiences that are beyond their power to comprehend. I have met such and they have inquired eagerly whether or not their experience was of God.
The big test is, What has this done to my relationship to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ? If this new view of truth-this new encounter with spiritual things-has made me love God more, if it has magnified Him in my eyes, if it has purified my concept of His being and caused Him to appear more wonderful than before, then I may conclude that I have not wandered astray into the pleasant but dangerous and forbidden paths of error.
2. The next test is: How has this new experience affected my attitude toward the Lord Jesus Christ? Whatever place present-day religion may give to Christ, God gives Him top place in earth and in heaven. “This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased,” spoke the voice of God from heaven concerning our Lord Jesus. Peter, full of the Holy Spirit, declared: “God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ” (Acts 2:36). Jesus said of Himself, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” Again Peter said of Him, “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4:12) . The whole book of Hebrews is devoted to the idea that Christ is above all others. He is shown to be above Aaron and Moses, and even the angels are called to fall down and worship Him. Paul says that He is the image of the invisible God, that in Him dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily and that in all things He must have the preeminence. But time would fail me to tell of the glory accorded Him by prophets, patriarchs, apostles, saints, elders, psalmists, kings and seraphim. He is made unto us wisdom and righteousness and sanctification and redemption. He is our hope, our life, our all and all, now and forevermore.
All this being true, it is clear that He must stand at the center of all true doctrine, all acceptable practice and all genuine Christian experience. Anything that makes Him less than God has declared Him to be is delusion pure and simple and must be rejected, no matter how delightful or how satisfying it may for the time seem to be.
Christless Christianity sounds contradictory but it exists as a real phenomenon in our day. Much that is being done in Christ’s name is false to Christ in that it is conceived by the flesh, incorporates fleshly methods, and seeks fleshly ends. Christ is mentioned from time to time in the same way and for the same reason that a self-seeking politician mentions Lincoln and the flag, to provide a sacred front for carnal activities and to deceive the simplehearted listeners. This giveaway is that Christ is not central: He is not all and in all.
Again, there are psychic experiences that thrill the seeker and lead him to believe that he has indeed met the Lord and been carried to the third heaven; but the true nature of the phenomenon is discovered later when the face of Christ begins to fade from the victim’s consciousness and he comes to depend more and more upon emotional jags as a proof of his spirituality.
If on the other hand the new experience tends to make Christ indispensable, if it takes our interest off our feeling and places it in Christ, we are on the right track. Whatever makes Christ dear to us is pretty sure to be from God.
3. Another revealing test of the soundness of religious experience is, How does it affect my attitude toward the Holy Scriptures? Did this new experience, this new view of truth, spring out of the Word of God itself or was it the result of some stimulus that lay outside the Bible? Tender-hearted Christians often become victims of strong psychological pressure applied intentionally or innocently by someone’s personal testimony, or by a colorful story told by a fervent preacher who may speak with prophetic finality but who has not checked his story with the facts nor tested the soundness of his conclusions by the Word of God.
Whatever originates outside the Scriptures should for that very reason be suspect until it can be shown to be in accord with them. If it should be found to be contrary to the Word of revealed truth no true Christian will accept it as being from God. However high the emotional content, no experience can be proved to be genuine unless we can find chapter and verse authority for it in the Scriptures. “To the word and to the testimony” must always be the last and final proof.
Whatever is new or singular should also be viewed with a lot of caution until it can furnish scriptural proof of its validity. Over the last half-century quite a number of unscriptural notions have gained acceptance among Christians by claiming that they were among the truths that were to be revealed in the last days. To be sure, say the advocates of this latter-daylight theory, Augustine did not know, Luther did not, John Knox, Wesley, Finney and Spurgeon did not understand this; but greater light has now shined upon God’s people and we of these last days have the advantage of fuller revelation. We should not question the new doctrine nor draw back from this advanced experience. The Lord is getting His Bride ready for the marriage supper of the Lamb. We should all yield to this new movement of the Spirit. So they tell us.
The truth is that the Bible does not teach that there will be new light and advanced spiritual experiences in the latter days; it teaches the exact opposite. Nothing in Daniel or the New Testament epistles can be tortured into advocating the idea that we of the end of the Christian era shall enjoy light that was not known at its beginning. Beware of any man who claims to be wiser than the apostles or holier than the martyrs of the Early Church. The best way to deal with him is to rise and leave his presence. You cannot help him and he surely cannot help you.
Granted, however, that the Scriptures may not always be clear and that there are differences of interpretation among equally sincere men, this test will furnish all the proof needed of anything religious, viz., What does it do to my love for and appreciation of the Scriptures?
While true power lies not in the letter of the text but in the Spirit that inspired it, we should never underestimate the value of the letter. The text of truth has the same relation to truth as the honeycomb has to honey. One serves as a receptacle for the other. But there the analogy ends. The honey can be removed from the comb, but the Spirit of truth cannot and does not operate apart from the letter of the Holy Scriptures.
For this reason a growing acquaintance with the Holy Spirit will always mean an increasing love for the Bible. The Scriptures are in print what Christ is in person. The inspired Word is like a faithful portrait of Christ. But again the figure breaks down. Christ is in the Bible as no one can be in a mere portrait, for the Bible is a book of holy ideas and the eternal Word of the Father can and does dwell in the thought He has Himself inspired. Thoughts are things, and the thoughts of the Holy Scriptures form a lofty temple for the dwelling place of God.
From this it follows naturally that a true lover of God will be also a lover of His Word. Anything that comes to us from the God of the Word will deepen our love for the Word of God. This follows logically, but we have confirmation by a witness vastly more trustworthy than logic, viz., the concerted testimony of a great army of witnesses living and dead. These declare with one voice that their love for the Scriptures intensified as their faith mounted and their obedience became consistent and joyous.
If the new doctrine, the influence of that new teacher, the new emotional experience fills my heart with an avid hunger to meditate in the Scriptures day and night. I have every reason to believe that God has spoken to my soul and that my experience is genuine. Conversely, if my love for the Scriptures has cooled even a little, if my eagerness to eat and drink of the inspired Word has abated by as much as one degree, I should humbly admit that I have missed God’s signal somewhere and frankly backtrack until I find the true way once more.
4. Again, we can prove the quality of religious experience by its effect on the self-life.
The Holy Spirit and the fallen human self are diametrically opposed to each other. “The flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would” (Gal. 5:17). “They that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit . . . . Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be” (Rom. 8: 5, 7).
Before the Spirit of God can work creatively in our hearts He must condemn and slay the “flesh” within us; that is, He must have our full consent to displace our natural self with the Person of Christ. This displacement is carefully explained in Romans 6, 7,and 8. When the seeking Christian has gone through the crucifying experience described in chapters 6 and 7 he enters into the broad, free regions of chapter 8. There self is dethroned and Christ is enthroned forever.
In the light of this it is not hard to see why the Christian’s attitude toward self is such an excellent test of the validity of his religious experiences. Most of the great masters of the deeper life, such as Fenelon. Molinos, John of the Cross, Madame Guyon and a host, of others, have warned against pseudoreligious experiences that provide much carnal enjoyment but feel the flesh and puff up the heart with self-love.
A good rule is this: If this experience has served to humble me and make me little and vile in my own eyes it is of God; but if it has given me a feeling of self-satisfaction it is false and should be dismissed as emanating from self or the devil. Nothing that comes from God will minister to my pride or self-congratulation. If I am tempted to be complacent and to feel superior because I have had a remarkable vision or an advanced spiritual experience, I should go at once to my knees and repent of the whole thing. I have fallen a victim to the enemy.
5. Our relation to and our attitude toward our fellow Christians is another accurate test of religious experience.
Sometimes an earnest Christian will, after some remarkable spiritual encounter, withdraw himself from his fellow believers and develop a spirit of faultfinding. He may be honestly convinced that his experience is superior, that he is now in an advanced state of grace, and that the hoi polloi in the church where he attends are but a mixed multitude and he alone a true son of Israel. He may struggle to be patient with these religious worldlings, but his soft language and condescending smile reveal his true opinion of them-and of himself. This is a dangerous state of mind, and the more dangerous because it can justify itself by the facts. The brother has had a remarkable experience; he has received some wonderful light on the Scriptures; he has entered into a joyous land unknown to him before. And it may easily be true that the professed Christians with whom he is acquainted are worldly and dull and without spiritual enthusiasm. It is not that he is mistaken in his facts that proves him to be in error, but that his reaction to the facts is of the flesh. His new spirituality has made him less charitable.
The Lady Julian tells us in her quaint English how true Christian grace affects our attitude toward others: “For of all things the beholding and loving of the Maker maketh the soul to seem less in his own sight, and most filleth him with reverent dread and true meekness; with plenty of charity to his fellow Christians.” Any religious experience that fails to deepen our love for our fellow Christians may safely be written off as spurious.
The Apostle John makes love for our fellow Christians to be a test of true faith. “My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him” (I John 3:18, 19). Again he says, “Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love” (I John 4:7, 8).
As we grow in grace we grow in love toward all God’s people. “Every one that loveth him that begot loveth him also that is begotten of him” (I John 5:1) . This means simply that if we love God we will love His children. All true Christian experience will deepen our love for other Christians.
Therefore we conclude that whatever tends to separate us in person or in heart from our fellow Christians is not of God, but is of the flesh or of the devil. And conversely, whatever causes us to love the children of God is likely to be of God. “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another” (John 13:35).
6. Another certain test of the source of religious experience is this: Note how it affects our relation to and our attitude toward the world.
By “the world” I do not mean, of course, the beautiful order of nature which God has created for the enjoyment of mankind. Neither do I mean the world of lost men in the sense used by our Lord when He said, “God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved” (John 3:16, 17). Certainly any true touch of God in the soul will deepen our appreciation of the beauties of nature and intensify our love for the lost. I refer here to something else altogether.
Let an apostle say it for us: “All that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever” (I John 2:16, 17) .
This is the world by which we may test the spirits. It is the world of carnal enjoyments, of godless pleasures, of the pursuit of earthly riches and reputation and sinful happiness. It carries on without Christ, following the counsel of the ungodly and being animated by the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that works in the children of disobedience (Eph. 2: 2) . Its religion is a form of godliness, without power, which has a name to live but is dead. It is, in short, unregenerate human society romping on its way to hell, the exact opposite of the true Church of God, which is a society of regenerate souls going soberly but joyfully on their way to heaven.
Any real work of God in our heart will tend to unfit us for the world’s fellowship. “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him” (I John 2:15). “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?” (II Cor. 6:140. It may be stated unequivocally that any spirit that permits compromise with the world is a false spirit. Any religious movement that imitates the world in any of its manifestations is false to the cross of Christ and on the side of the devil and this regardless of how much purring its leaders may do about “accepting Christ” or “letting God run your business.”
7. The last test of the genuineness of Christian experience is what it does to our attitude toward sin.
The operations of grace within the heart of a believing man will turn that heart away from sin and toward holiness. “For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ” (Tit. 2:11-13) .
I do not see how it could be plainer. The same grace that saves teaches that saved man inwardly, and its teaching is both negative and positive. Negatively it teaches us to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts. Positively it teaches us to live soberly, righteously and godly right in this present world.
The man of honest heart will find no difficulty here. He has but to check his own bent to discover whether he is concerned about sin in his life more or less since the supposed work of grace was done. Anything that weakens his hatred of sin may be identified immediately as false to the Scriptures, to the Saviour and to his own soul. Whatever makes holiness more attractive and sin more intolerable may be accepted as genuine. “For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity” (Psa. 5: 4, 5).
Jesus warned, “There shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they should deceive the very elect.” These words describe our day too well to be coincidental. In the hope that the “elect” may profit by them I have set forth these tests. The result is in the hand of God.
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February 11, 2008 at 9:31 pm
NWProdigal
Kim,
I appreciate your intent in bring out this article by Tozer. I admire the man very much, but I’m afraid he was, himself, too involved in the very things we have been told to beware of, namely contemplative spirituality. His reference to Fenelon. Molinos, John of the Cross, Madame Guyon and others is indicative of this. These are the self-same “deep spiritualists” that Richard Foster promotes as the “Spiritual Discipline” examples we should follow. Unfortunately, all these spiritual people ended up espousing Panentheism as a result of their mysticism.
I was originally attracted to A.W.Tozer because of his stand against nominal Christianity, and because I was also desiring to become more spiritual in an emotionally satisfying way. This led, in turn, to my interest in areas that I eventually discovered were Charismatic and ultimately connected with the Toronto Blessing, Latter Rain and other experiential beliefs. Fortunately, I saw these things for the false religion they are and got away from it.
I am not saying that Tozer was not a man of God or that he was like Richard Foster. But, I believe in his pursuit of God he was also led into some questionable areas by the enemy. Satan is very cunning and it makes one wonder if Tozer was always following his own advice.
February 11, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Kim
Thank you for bringing these issues to light. If Tozer led you to contemplatives that is a serious implication.
I have looked through the books I have and cannot find any panentheism (God is in everything and everything is in God) in his writing. Of course I have not read everything he has written and I am always interested in correcting any assumptions on my part. My first recourse was to search LightHouseTrailsResearch and this was all that came up:
Click to access bereancallaug2005%5B1%5D.pdf
Tozer is quoted on page 6 of this document.
I am interested in what others may have to say about A. W. Tozer.
Thank you, NWProdigal, (I am in the NW myself)
February 14, 2008 at 1:26 am
patsy whiddon
FANATICS, REDICULOUS, that is what I got from this site! I consider myself a christian in that jesus, the son of god died for our sins, my belief in him makes me a christian. I also believe in having an open mind. I teach yoga to teens at a public school. The exercise yoga! it is about stretching and relieving stress! I guess some people would rather they go and drink or do drugs to relieve their stress! You type of people are sooooo very good at finding things wrong with other peoples activities but your the first in line at the all you can eat feed trough on sundays after church. I guess food is how you relax, or is it a fat cult? If Jesus had this attitude who would he have found worthy to minister to? I think when he returns, some of you will be in for a really big suprise. I plan on doing a warior pose on my way up to heaven. Yogi in Arkansas
February 14, 2008 at 3:42 am
Kim
I am glad you believe in Jesus. There is another step. It is to repent of sin, confess of it, and then turn away from it. Living the Christian life involves daily prayer, reading the Bible, then learning and doing God’s will.
You seem very angry…
February 14, 2008 at 4:10 am
NWProdigal
Dear Patsy,
Ask a former Hindu what yoga is all about. Thinking Yoga is harmless is akin to saying that it’s okay if a Christian watches porn as long as it’s with their spouse!! Then again, you may very well feel that way….I hope not.
The best way for Christians to relieve stress is to pray and study God’s Word. It works very well. As do a lot of other, more family oriented, things.
By the way, I am a faithful church member, active in several areas of benevolence and study, and I personally witness to people every chance get. That won’t save me, but since we are created for good works, we must do them to please God and help others.
God bless you and help you to seek Him and His righteousness alone!
February 14, 2008 at 4:22 am
NWProdigal
Kim,
I didn’t mean to imply that reading Tozer led me directly into contemplative spirituality, but it did make me more susceptible to the emotional attractiveness of it. When I first became a Christian I was very attracted to Mennonite and Quaker folk. I soon discovered their tendency toward ecumenicalism and spiritualism before I even was aware of the latter term.
This emphasis on emotional and psychological effects of worship goes back to the “Great Awakenings” of the late 18th and early to mid-nineteenth centuries. Charles Finney, especially, was a manipulator par excellence of people’s emotions and fears. Unfortunately, he has been responsible, at least in part, for the Charismatic and Christian Perfection movements and works and signs based faiths. He is also the father of the “altar call”, “decisions for Christ” and other aberrant methods of evangelism.
I recommend you check out this short, but concise study: http://www.bible.ca/g-sinners-prayer.htm
and http://tenclay.org/blog/2007/04/?p=094
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February 26, 2008 at 4:10 am
Elise
Patsy –
Yoga in all its forms is, was and always will be a focus on the self only, not God, not Jesus, not the Holy Spirit, not the Scriptures. The ultimate agenda of yoga is demonic in that you are to empty the mind so the devil(s) can enter. Exercise yoga is this in a lighter form but demonic nonetheless. Hindus worship demons – this is how the demons have instructed people to gain entry for eons under the guise of feeling peaceful and euphoric – “just sit there and empty your mind.” You are essentially opening a window very wide for them to come in. Then there’s the kundulini yoga to release the serpent – another nightmare – even more demonic. Been there done that with yoga and meditation and am back to Christianity, thank the Lord. You are touching your feet in very dangerous waters and leading young people to experiment with the occult. Please please, for everyone involved, pray and ponder deeply what you are doing. You must take this issue very seriously as a Christian – because you are not.
July 11, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Michael
I found your artical very interesting and enlightening. I have read many of Dr. Tozer books and found that they have helped me greatly to develope a closer relationship with God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
January 30, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Nancy
I am commenting on A.W. Tozer’s Testing The Spirits, specifically that any experience or revelation should have certain effects, one being greater love and relationships with other people, especially family members and fellow believers. Sadly, Tozer did not follow this prescription with his own family. His contemplative life and fascination with the “holiness” of the saints and mystics of history led him astray. As well, being somewhat aloof in personality and a book-aholic, he may have thought what was coming from God was actually coming from his own personality and preferences. He certainly preached the truth, but in regard to caring intimately for his family and personally for his congregations, he did not live it. This pains me, because I greatly admire his work, but we are all prone to the sin of believing one thing and doing another, of having blind spots. Leave off pur-
suing mysteries and do what God plainly says to do.
January 30, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Kim
Nancy,
I agree with you..I ordered the book “The Best of A.W. Tozer” and read further on “Man: The Dwelling Place of God.” He refers to Madame Guyon and John of the Cross who are mystics. He calls them “masters of the deeper life”, pg. 190. This is treading in dangerous water.
Also on page 218 he says:
“Now I say that worship is subject to degrees of perfection and intensity. There have been those who worshiped God to the point where they were in ecstasies of worship. I once saw a man kneel at an altar, taking Communion. Suddenly he broke into holy laughter.”
So Tozer had a lack of discernment from his contact with the mystics. Laughter during communion is a mocking of God.
October 11, 2010 at 5:51 pm
davemosher
I am currently researching the incredible heresy of Spiritual Formation, and am constantly coming across classes recommending A.W. Tozer as a “classic” author on Spiritual Formation. Whether he intended it or not, Tozer has been set up on a pedestal as one of the pioneers of Spiritual Formation. I am shocked. Until recently, I had been impressed with the life history of A.W. Tozer…
October 11, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Kim
Thank for your comment. I haven’t looked at this article for some time now. I can now see how appealing this list is at first, his testing of the spirits. most of what he says is true. But I am finding that some teachings are pretty good but then the author can mix things up in another book or article. I have had to pull endorsements of preachers/teachers because I did not do my homework or I missed a warning or red flag.
March 29, 2011 at 7:35 am
Pastor James
Well researched. I enjoyed it.
March 29, 2011 at 8:01 am
Mallory
I agree with Elise. Yoga is a dangerous practice and can leave you wide open to spiritual attack.
Testimony:
I got into yoga before going to college, and when the Lord came for me after my first year, I became a truly converted and regenerated believer in Christ. For a short time, though, because of a lack of knowledge, I went further and practiced what is called Ashtanga Yoga. Being an athlete, I thought it was great! It was supposed to be good for ME. I had strength and vitality; I could move in ways that others could not and I was proud of it. Oh and the supposed “stress relief”…I was sold!
It did not take long for the Lord to take away the blindness. When the Lord first pricked my heart and conscience that practicing this kind of yoga is wrong, I tried to ignore it…LITERALLY. I would still go to yoga practice but would sometimes try to plug my ears whenever someone opened with a chant or meditation. I thought “Well I believe in Christ now, and I can still practice, but just not do the things that make it seem bad.” Ugh!!! Our God says, “I am the LORD your God, you shall have NO other gods before Me.” Then, in my particular case, these “yogis” as they are called, started talking about practicing so that Garugi the Monkey God would not be angry. (Hello…anyone see something wrong here?!?!). Finally, I couldn’t take it. I was out of there.
True Christians love God more than anything else. Period. It is not fanatical to give up your life for Christ. It is what we as Christians are called to do. We are to join Him in the fellowship of His sufferings and count the cost worthy to suffer for His sake. Very often that means giving up what we think will make us happy. If God truly has your heart bound to Him in Christ Jesus, you cannot practice sin consistently as a pattern of life. What a mercy of God that He chastens those whom He loves.
It continues to break my heart when I read or hear comments like Patsy’s. It is ALWAYS a dangerous place to be when we think we can flirt with sin and not get burned.
Furthermore, and just as a closing plea, I think what was revealed in Patsy’s comment is truly an indication of the true condition of the church in America. Many demonstrate by their lives the belief that Jesus the Christ is an accessory, something they’ve got tacked on to life along with all of the other baggage. “I’ll do what I want, and Christ can come, too.” No, brothers and sisters. Christ is all in all. The beginning and the end. You cannot live the Christian life in word only. Please come back to Christ. In Love,
March 29, 2011 at 8:17 am
Kim
Mallory,
Thank you for commenting and telling of your yoga experience. God is so good because He gives warnings to us when we stray. How often do we first ignore the red flags but the regenerated life is evidence that we will turn back to Him and the truth. He will not let a sheep be plucked from His hand.
Blessings.
Actually, I would like to post your comment and make it a small article if you would allow? I would delete the comment references.
March 29, 2011 at 8:35 am
Mallory
Hi Kim,
If it would help other brothers and sisters by hearing the testimony of Christ’s changing power in me, please spread promiscuously. 🙂
To God be the glory, great things He has done. In Christ,
May 6, 2011 at 11:20 am
Holly Garcia
Nice testimony on the yoga. I left a church for bringing in “Christian Yoga”. I find like the woman above, a bit of sarcasm and pride, a little anger if you bring it up. They are too “spiritually mature” (some say) to be deceived. Frightening place to be in, if we do not have a love for the truth.
As for the bible.ca site, I’d caution that although you might find some good info, there is problem with finding out the beliefs of those disseminating that info. They have “assembly” churches without letting you know their beliefs. A couple of times that I have accessed their info, I have found error that I would not recommend the site.
On the salvation prayer issue. To say that a prayer will be what saves you is wrong. To say that the prayer did not save you, is wrong. I think what we should do rather is lay out what the Bible says, and it is the Word that is able to make someone “wise unto salvation”, so we should be careful to not knock something as wholly wrong, maybe rather, gently, aptly teach, point by point with God’s Word, what might be missing, if anything. Just my thoughts, may or may not be exactly clear, long few months recently. God bless all here.