What is the Third Eye and why should Christians know about it.
First let’s look at Wikipedia:
The 3rd or Inner Eye – A metaphysical opening which refers to the 6th chakra (brow), that leads to higher consciousness. A new age symbol of enlightenment.
Okay… so the Third Eye is a psychic ability connected to the occult. Dictionary.com defines occult as knowledge of secret or supernatural powers, beyond the the range of ordinary senses, or secret/hidden information only available to the initiated.
Next we need to know how one “opens” this Third Eye. The main way that one opens himself up to the spirit realm, is through meditation. It is through meditation that one achieves an altered state of consciousness. Constantly you will find that meditation, or the emptying of one’s mind, is the doorway to all metaphysical activity.
Back to the 6th chakra. The chakras usually relate to yoga, but not always. The 6th chakra in yoga is the brow. When kundalini (serpent power) rises to the the brow, there is enlightenment that is characterized by light. Those using yoga as a means of enlightenment get results by meditation, forced breathing patterns and using unnatural positions to force the power at the base of the spine upwards with the crown chakra as the main goal.
Another way enlightenment occurs is through meditation and visualization. Certain techniques are used to “see” and direct the serpent power up the spine through the chakras (nerve centers/wheels).
Here is another description. The kundalini rises and then goes into the brain and then down into the pituitary gland which awakens the pineal gland. When they meet there is union. This is an initiation of the birth of passage into another dimension and beyond. This is supposed to cause an explosion of light.
The third eye is also known as:
The middle eye of Shiva in Buddhism.
In Hinduism it is the eye of clairvoyance. This Hindus wear the Tilak. The red spot between the brows. When I was researching my Goddess Worship post, I looked at a link, describing Christian women who have been applying the red spot on their forehead and worshiping each other’s divinity.
In Egypt it is known as The Eye of Horus or the Eye of Osiris.
In Freemasonry, it is the All Seeing Eye. The same one that is found on our one dollar bill. This All Seeing Eye is surrounded by light.
But the eye usually means the same…esoteric knowledge that man so desires. This eye represents the passing into a spiritual world than man has no business entering. It is forbidden because it will deceive and oppress.
In Genesis 3:5-7 For God doth know..then your eyes shall be opened and ye shall be as Gods…knowing Good and Evil….And the eyes of them both opened.
The Hebrew word for eyes is not plural but singular so what the serpent said was that their eye would be broadened by knowledge. Scripture here is not talking about the physical organ but the eye of the soul.
So for today…opening yourself up or opening your third eye is the same. It is opening a gate between two worlds. Meditation is a sure way of accomplishing this opening up of yourself especially through Contemplative prayer. This is simply meditation masked with Christian terminology. The fear that accompanies entrance into deep meditative levels is there for a reason…it is a warning from God.
I have been reading a manual for opening the third eye from, “The Awakening of the Third Eye” by Samuel Sagan.
It immediately states that meditation is not for relaxation, and that the third eye is the gate that leads within.
Here are some quotes:
“Developing the third eye is a direct way of expanding your conscious universe and discovering your essential values, so that you may fathom your own mystery.” (page 13)
“Suppose an angel comes to you, truly. If you have been trying to visualize angels every morning for a few months how will you know whether it is a true angel or one that you made up…The real problem is, once these visions come to you, how to discern what is real from what is a fancy of the mind” [page 18]
[I thought this was very interesting..he was acknowledging that visualization created visions from your own making]
“You see the universe and it’s finality completely different…It is not what you believe or what you have read that will change your spiritual life..it is what you can experience directly.” [page 18]
[See how a change of worldview is suggested here and the Bible eliminated]
“Whenever there is a vibration or a light, there is a being behind it” (page 160)
[The Bible tells us that Satan comes as a white light]
“What to do with an angel? Let its glory become alive in you…to worship a god first you have to become a god.” (page 161)
[How many times have we seen this? Almost all communications from the spirit world tell us that we are as gods, just like the serpent in Genesis]
“This tragedy is quite common. There are many people who seem to be desperate for spiritual progress. They go on crying ‘I wish God could help me’…and if you look above them, what can you see? Guides and angels who keep whispering ‘Please tune into us, please receive our light‘…If these people could tune in, they would immediately receive a shower of spiritual gifts.” (page 185)
[Light? We already know what the “light” is in the metaphysical world. It is Satan. And this shower of spiritual gifts?..hmmm..]
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Have you ever read the prophecies of those on the Elijah list? Have you ever had someone tell you that they have a continual conversation with God throughout the day? Have you listened to those who proclaim to the world that their visions are from God? Have you ever heard a prophet say that he could forgive your sins for you? Have you ever heard a TV evangelist say that “I am a God”? Have you ever attended a meeting where the “spiritual” gifts are so numerous that chaos erupts?
I do believe that spiritual gifts are available to us today for the edification of the church…I also believe that many are the products of divination, and are false. We have to discern what is God’s truth and what is man’s truth. The Bible is the deciding factor.
Is it possible that some Christians and some who claim to be Christian have opened themselves up to demonic forces and truly believe they are hearing from God, but are not? YES! That spirit guides and angels you have summoned from another metaphysical realm are holy? NO! They are not holy.
In a world that is giving way to a New Age, a new spiritual mysticism, we have to, as Christians, discern what is from God and what is not. We are to test the spirits.
I John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
I beg of you..do not practice anything that is at all similar to eastern meditation. Meditation is the common factor to all metaphysical and ungodly methods. If you have ….stop and repent…..ask God’s forgiveness.
The goal of the New Age is to unite all religions. Hold strong onto your faith in Jesus Christ. I know many reject this but…. He is indeed THE ONLY WAY.
John 14:6 “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
Also remember that Satan is a great counterfeiter and deceiver. He imitates the things of Christ. Satan is not the light. The Lord Jesus Christ is.
So this verse bears repeating.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light .
Pray daily that the Lord will give you discernment in these last days of great deception. Discern the light of the world, Jesus, from the counterfeit light of Satan’s enlightment. Many caught up in this spiritual deception and false system are experiencing the darkest time in their lives. Depression, anxiety, panic attacks seem to be common factors among those who have crossed over into this forbidden world. Those dark spirits who follow you do so because you invited them.
Jesus Christ demonstrated His power over the demonic world. Only He can cast out those dark spirits. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ who triumphed over Satan and sin on the cross. He rose again. He is our Savior and will cleanse us from sin and fill us with the Holy Spirit. Faith is trust. Trust in Him.
kim
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336 comments
July 20, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Louise
Hey, just thought I’d drop by again
I tried to understand all of what you are saying to Sarah (who is clearly misconcieved about the word of god, no offence) but it’s late and I’m tired. Lesley said to come and thank you for all your help, she will be in touch soon, when she comes home from her holiday.
i hope you are all doing well and that you are continuing to help others like me with your good work and sensible advice.
God Bless you all
Louisexx
August 10, 2008 at 8:02 am
kryssa
i’d like to ask sarah on something..how do you control your third eye?don’t you get scared?are there restrictions in using your third eye?coz im not sure if i would really want to open it or not..thnx..pls. do reply..
for the others,i dont read the bible though i have one..i really don’t believe in the church either coz they all have different interpretations of the bible..but i do believe in God and Jesus Christ..i believe that God is the one who created all things and i do not question that..i just think that people have their beliefs and that respect is important in understanding each other..
i have a question though..but it’s not related to the third eye..it’s about sexuality..what can you guys say about homosexuals?=)
August 10, 2008 at 8:40 am
Kim
kryssa,
I am so glad you believe in Jesus Christ. He said in John 14:6
“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
This means that the only way to God is through Jesus Christ, so one has to believe, have faith, repent of sin and follow what he says in the Bible.
Please do not try to open your third eye. This is really just a spirit power from the supernatural world that we are not to dabble in. The occult powers of this world are not from God. There are two spirit worlds. The Holy Spirit of God is received by walking in faith and obedience to God’s Word in the Bible. The other spirit world is of fallen angels and demons. You can access them but the dangers are scary, and you endangering your very soul.
Even yogis warn meditators of kundalini sickness which is an overpowering of the serpent power. Kundalini is the serpent power at the base of the spine that travels up to the brain and to the pituitary gland. But it is serpent power which goes back to the Garden of Eden. Please do not let the serpent tempt you with this false power from fallen angels.
Plain and simple the Bible teaches against homosexuality.
August 11, 2008 at 8:27 am
kryssa
kim,
thank you foranswering back..but i have a lot of questions really..but i mean no harm..
hmm…i tried meditating earlier today…i don’t really know what would be the effects of it..but it made me fall asleep..well maybe i was doing it wrongly..haha..
anyway,im a psychology student and we have tried meditating in class..do you still think that it is wrong?
are homosexuals then sinners?should they be condemned?what if i tell you that i am a homo?must i repent?
August 11, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Lee
kryssa,
I hope you don’t mind me answering you. Regarding meditation: the Bible speaks of meditating on God’s word by reading it and trying to ascertain meaning. It does not speak of chanting it as in Eastern mystic religions. Yes, I do believe it’s wrong to empty your mind in meditating as this can open you up to demonic/deceptive spirits.
Homosexuals are sinners, yes; however, all have sinned and have fallen short of the Glory of God. This is why Jesus died on the cross — He died for the sins of all.
15And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.
16So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. 17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! [2 Corinthians 5:15-17 NIV]
The bible is very clear that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of heaven; however, read this:
9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. [1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NIV]
If you will accept Jesus Christ as LORD and Savior, He will wash all your sins away and you can have a fresh start. Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your LORD and savior?
August 12, 2008 at 6:29 am
kryssa
lee,
yes i have accepted him in my life as the only savior.however, i’m still a bit confused,so then what should i do about my sexuality?
so,meditation is not really that wrong right?maybe its just in the way it is done..
by the way,i haven’t read my bible that much..
August 12, 2008 at 10:29 am
Lee
kryssa,
God is not the author of confusion; Satan is. All sex outside of marriage is sinful; so, if you are currently engaging in sex you must stop and repent. If your desires are for the those of your same gender then pray about this. God is faithful. In time He will deliver you. I know someone who is going through this struggle right now; and, this individual is struggling less and less with this. I will pray for you.
Do you believe that God supernaturally heals? He does! Do you know of anyone who has been supernaturally healed of alcohol or drug dependence? I do. He is faithful!
I’m not trying to say that these feelings will be taken away overnight. Some times God will do that; but, not always. However, He will accomplish this in His timing as long as you are faithful and obedient to living the Christian life. You do this by walking by the Spirit rather than the flesh
16So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 17For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.
19The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control.
King David speaks of meditating on God’s Word in the Psalms. That’s the key: to meditate on the Word of God in context. Don’t repeat words or phrases. That would be no different than chanting “om” over and over.
I strongly encourage you to study your Bible. This is one of the best ways God speaks to us. Just take 5 to 10 minutes the first day if you feel you don’t have the time. Then, increase it. There’s no formula to it. Try eliminating something — perhaps a TV program — and use that time to read the Word of God. Jesus is the Word made flesh [John 1:1, 14]; so, it’s very important!
Kim just posted an excellent article on reading God’s Word.
August 17, 2008 at 6:51 am
kryssa
what if i don’t want to change who i am?am i still not accepted in the kingdom of God?even if i believe in him and that i accept him in me?
by the way,i’ve stopped meditating..
August 17, 2008 at 8:34 am
Kim
kryssa,
I am so glad to hear that you have stopped the meditations. This eastern style meditation opens you up to the wrong spirit world. This wrecks havoc on all people who dabble here.
You must seek the Holy Spirit. When i studied Romans i found out that no one is righteousness, no one. This is what drives us to Jesus. When we repent and turn away from our sin, we will come to the point where we can live more powerful lives.
If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your saviour, you will want to please Him and live for Him. The more and more you read your Bible and pray about your lifestyle, the more you will hate your sin and love God.
Everyone says today that God is love. God loves everyone. This is so very true, it is a given, but really we must ask ourselves instead…Do we love God?
The truth is that most do not love God and do not want Him to rule our lives because this involves major changes in our lives. But in order to show our love we must begin to live by His commandments.
Romans 14:14 says “Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature”.
We have to submit our sinful nature over to Jesus Christ. His laws and instruction show us how much we truly need Him because we cannot transform ourselves on our own.
I like this verse in 1 Corinthians 10:13 and this is one i use All of the time.
“No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.”
This is a wonderful verse. When you are tempted to indulge yourself, God will give you a way out. But now you must put out some effort on your part.
I Peter 5:8-9 tell us “Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. RESIST HIM, standing firm in the faith….”
Resist the devil and he will flee.
I know that you will have a battle before you. I do not pretend that you will have it easy. You need to find a church or fellowship with other believers. Prayer is needed.
If you abide in Jesus Christ have faith that you will change and grow. Repent and ask Jesus to forgive you and to give you His strength and power to combat the sinful lifestyle,and to be able to turn away from it. It is obvious that you are seeking him and are looking for the truth and eternal life.
When i am tempted with desires i have to remember that there is nothing, NOTHING, on this earth that will be more wonderful than the future eternal blessings we will inherit as followers of Christ. Somehow this helps to put things in perspective.
I will be praying for you.
I am asking if anyone has a good link for kryssa to read…to please submit it.
August 17, 2008 at 8:35 am
Lee
kryssa,
First, I want to say that I’m relieved you’ve stopped meditating. Praise God!
what if i don’t want to change who i am?am i still not accepted in the kingdom of God?even if i believe in him and that i accept him in me?
Most of us have areas of our lives that we don’t want to change. Some struggle with alcoholism, others with drug addiction, pornography, etc. However, if we truly want to serve the LORD we must obey Him and His Word.
I’ve gone through some very difficult times in my life and others have hurt me. I did not want to forgive the people who put me through these circumstances; however, I KNEW what God’s Word says about forgiveness. But, I did not FEEL like forgiving! So, I prayed for the Lord to help me with this struggle being honest about my own desire in not wanting to forgive.
I wanted to obey God; so, I asked God through prayer to help me to forgive. The process was slow; but, ultimately I HAVE forgiven these individuals. However, it was not me who forgave but the power of the Holy Spirit who worked in and through me and continues to work in and through me.
Once we accept Jesus Christ as savior we are justified. But, the process of sanctification is a life-long process. From the point of justification we grow in our relationship to Christ. However, we can make the conscious choice to stay right where we are at in our sin. In so doing we lose our future rewards in Heaven.
Having said/written all this, I want to answer your second question about being accepted in th Kingdom of God as a homosexual. Our God is the same yesterday, today and forever [Hebrews 13:8]; so, His Word does not change. 1 Corinthians 6:9 makes it clear that homosexuality excludes one from the Kingdom and other passages support this [Romans 1:24-27; Leviticus 18:22]. Also one of the reasons — perhaps THE primary reason — for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrha was this sin.
To truly accept Jesus Christ is to serve Him. In so doing doing we take up our cross daily:
Then he said to them all: “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. [Luke 9:23]
Living the Christian life is not easy. It requires sacrifice. But, through the power of the Holy Spirit who indwells every believer He helps us overcome. However, we must truly submit to Him.
Please don’t think for a second that I have all the answers and that I’m thinking I am somehow ‘holier than thou.’ I’m not. I struggle daily. Sometimes minute by minute. I am single [divorced] and there are times when I’d rather not be.
I wish to encourage you to pray about your struggle and to read more of the Word of God. Read the book of Romans starting at chapter 5 and go through the 8th chapter to read of the Apostle Paul’s struggle with sin and how he instructs us to overcome. Then go back to chapter 1 and read again all the way through.
God bless you kryssa for you courage in writing here!
August 17, 2008 at 8:40 am
Lee
kryssa,
Well, what a coincidence! Apparently while I was writing my response Kim was writing hers and we both referenced the Book of Romans.
September 2, 2008 at 8:47 am
kryssa
hi again..i have been busy lately with my studies and still haven’t opened my bible..well,maybe just one of this days i would be allotting some of my time in reading the chapters you have mentioned.. thanks for having the time to read on my posts and having the time to reply to me..i really appreciate your time..
though,still, i have no plans in changing who i am..its just that i feel a lot comfortable on who or what i am right now..maybe its just the way things are supposed to be..it really doesn’t matter what i am as long as i am not hurting anybody..and being true to yourself is a big thing in having self-confidence..
anyway,i thank you for just taking the time to listen to my thoughts and sharing your opinions..it means a lot..=)
September 2, 2008 at 9:59 am
Kim
Hi kryssa…I am so glad that you come to visit with us.
The Bible teaches that what you are doing is not “the way things are supposed to be”.. i have a feeling you know this is true deep in your heart.
You are hurting yourself and anyone you partner with. We need to be true to God ….not ourselves.
Here is link you may want to read.
http://www.carm.org/issues/homosexuality.htm
Please pray that the Lord will guide you in this search for truth.
In God’s love,
kim
September 2, 2008 at 10:47 am
Craig Dorsheimer [formerly Lee]
kryssa,
Thanks for coming back here. I understand how busy things can be while in school.
Know that we are not here to ‘judge’ you; but, we do love you with the love of God that comes through His Holy Spirit.
Please try to make the time to read those Bible passages cited.
September 17, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Louise
Hi, sorry its been so long, the internet broke down for about a month or so, anyway I just read everything you said to Kryssa, that was really good, i can learn from some of that, you guys are amazing!!
I actually came to ask your advice about a passage I read in the bible in school, Zephaniah 1;
“I will utterly consume everything from the face of the land,” says the Lord; “I will consume man and beast; I will consume the birds of the heavens, the fish of the sea, and the stumbling blocks along with the wicked. I will cut off man from the face of the land,” says the Lord. I will stretch out My hand against Judah, and against all the inhabitants of Jerusalem. I will cut off every trace of Baal from this place, the names of the idolatrous priests with the pagan priests; those who worship the host of heaven on the housetops; those who worship and swear oaths by the Lord, but who also swear by Milcom; those who have turned back from following the Lord, and have not sought the Lord, nor inquired of Him. Be silent in the presence of the Lord God; for the day of the Lord is at hand, for the Lord has prepared a sacrifice; He has invited His guests. And it shall be, in the day of the Lord’s sacrifice, that I will punish the princes and the king’s children, and all such as are clothed with foreign apparel. In the same day I will punish all those who leap over the threshold, who fill their masters’ houses with violence and deceit. And there shall be on that day,” says the Lord, “The sound of a mournful cry from the Fish Gate, a wailing from the Second Quarter, and a loud crashing from the hills. Wail, you inhabitants of Maktesh! For all the merchant people are cut down; all those who handle money are cut off.
“And it shall come to pass at that time that I will search Jerusalem with lamps, and punish the men who are settled in complacency, who say in their heart, ‘The Lord will not do good, nor will He do evil.’ Therefore their goods shall become booty, and their houses a desolation; they shall build houses, but not inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards, but not drink their wine.
The great day of the Lord is near; it is near and hastens quickly. The noise of the day of the Lord is bitter; there the mighty men shall cry out. That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of devastation and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, a day of trumpet and alarm against the fortified cities and against the high towers. I will bring distress upon men, and they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord; their blood shall be poured out like dust, and their flesh like refuse.” Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the Lord’s wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of His jealousy, for He will make speedy riddance of all those who dwell in the land.”
To be perfectly honest that passage has completely changed my perspective and not I’m a little confused. If anyone can help I’d be glad as it has been worrying me for some time
should I be afraid of someone who is supposed to be loving? I mean I have been raised to love and respect God, not be utterly terrfied of him in case I do something wrong and he decides to bruatally decapitate me!! Maybe I’m just interpreting it wrong or reading into too much but you can’t deny its a little scary!
Thank you anyway
Louisex
September 17, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Kim
Hi Louise,
Thank you for coming back and asking about the book of Zephaniah.
You have selected a tough passage indeed but it is true and it is about judgment. He was warning Judah to repent.
I know that many teach only the positive aspects of the attributes of God. Many preachers like to only teach that God is love and nothing else. As you can see there is more to God than love, although He is loving. He loves us so much that He is willing to warn us and gives all a chance to repent and to turn to Him.
As you can read from the verses the people and priests were worshipping pagan idols and idolatrous priests. If they did not turn away from these practices they were going to be judged.
The same is true of today. If we do not turn away from other gods, (money, wealth, riches, gold, silver, Buddha, Shiva, etc.) we too will be judged. Zephaniah uses the term The day of the Lord, and this can be compared to the book of Revelation, which describes the last days. So Zephaniah is foreshadowing the end-times or the return of the Lord Jesus Christ.
God promises to pour out his wrath on those who choose not to know God or obey the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9)
So we find that what you are reading in Zephaniah is also in the rest of the Bible. That is why we are to study the Bible as a whole…to get a complete picture of God.
Yes, judgment is scary. When Jesus comes back we will have to stand before him in judgment.
God is holy, holy, holy. We will not be able to enter His kingdom when Christ returns if we are not humble, and repentant. That is why we to repent of our sin and turn away from it and then walk in faith.
Remember though that there is no condemnation of those who are in Christ. (Romans 8:1)
Make sure to read the first three verses of Zephaniah 2. This should be included with Zeph 1 for it is the answer of how those of us who trust in the Lord will be sheltered.
Zep 2:1 Gather together, gather together,
O shameful nation,
Zep 2:2 before the appointed time arrives
and that day sweeps on like chaff,
before the fierce anger of the Lord comes upon you,
before the day of the Lord’s wrath comes upon you.
Zep 2:3 Seek the Lord, all you humble of the land,
you who do what he commands.
Seek righteousness, seek humility;
perhaps you will be sheltered
on the day of the Lord’s anger.
September 18, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Louise
“He loves us so much that He is willing to warn us and gives all a chance to repent and to turn to Him.”
Wow, you know I never even considered that possibility! At first glance it seemed to be all about how everyone was going to die and God would walk among all the corpses of those he had killed for not following him. I’ve never actually read the whole bible (I’m a teenager and I am comitted to God but I just don’t have the time to read it all) so I can’t really compare it. It’s almost as if in the old testament, God is very judgemental (Noah’s Ark, The Garden of Eden, Lot’s wife looks back etc.) but he seems to soften up in the new testament.
The bible is so hypocritical it’s no wonder I’m confused “Though shalt not kill”…”The noise of the day of the Lord is bitter; there the mighty men shall cry out. That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of devastation and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, a day of trumpet and alarm against the fortified cities and against the high towers. I will bring distress upon men, and they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord; their blood shall be poured out like dust, and their flesh like refuse.”
How can we possibly know which passages are the right ones that we are to follow?
I read the Da Vinci code recently and according to that there is a gospel written by Mary Magdeline, maybe hers is right…who knows?
I honestly don’t know how all of you can know exactly which passages to refer to and when but you’re certainly good at it!
September 18, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Kim
Louise,
You really should start in the New Testament. You may want to read some Bible Study books that help explain the passages. I know you have a computer so if you go to http://www.blueletterbible.com you will see that you find commentaries about the passages that you want to know more about.
The Da Vinci code was well-written and fun to read but it is untrue and heretical. It ends with the main character bending a knee to Mary. Only think of this book as fiction.
On the other hand, all the Bible is true. Our world is full of good and bad and the Bible doesn’t paint untrue rosie pictures. All suffering and judgment has been brought on by man himself by sin and rebellion so we cannot blame God. Instead we are to trust in his Word and walk in faith. Look up….He is coming back soon!
September 18, 2008 at 5:51 pm
Mary B
Louise,
If you don’t mind me jumping in here I too struggled with understanding verses about God’s judgement.But then as I came to understand our rebellion toward God when He himself humbled himself and suffered and died on our behalf, I realized that we condemn ourselves when we continue to live our lives without giving Him the reverence that He deserves. Hang in there and continue to read scripture as Kim stated. Don’t give up. It is so important to understand the historical context of each book, who was writiing it, and why.
September 19, 2008 at 2:16 pm
Louise
Kim, That site you gave me has been very helpful, thank you.
I seem to remember reading at the beginning of the Da Vinci Code that all of the information in the book was either fact or based on fact, apparently there are some people that do believe the Holy Grail (Whatever form it takes) Is the body of Mary Magdaline’s (did I spell that right?) which is supposedly buried with a gospel she wrote herself that outlines the “true relationship” between herself and Jesus. I also learned that…oh I don’t know how many years ago it was…This big empereor…dude…decided to kind of rewrite the bible and over 300 gospels were submitted but he only picked…I think it was 54 or something. There are lots of other gospels not in the bible, for all we know, we’re only getting half of the story. So many gospels just tell the same stories different ways (eg. one othem said that when jesus was on the cross he said “It is done” but another said “Eli Eli lama sabachthani?”) Why is there not different gospels telling different stories rather than the same ones told differently???
I’m really sorry if I’m annoying you with all my posts, I just do a lot thinking when I’m alone and unually end up confusing myself
Thank you for all your help so far
God Bless
September 19, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Kim
Louise,
It is a misconception that Constantine alone put the Bible together…here is an excerpt
It is important to note that 21 books were acknowledged by Christians long before Constantine. In AD 330, Constantine did finance the copying of 50 Christian Scriptures. However, this was not a new Bible, and he did not omit any of the already accepted books.
Please look at site below. I love it that you feel free to ask questions. There are many people out there trying to discredit the Christian faith. THis book is one of them. The Bible is truthful and authoritive. Scripture is God-breathed. The Bible is God’s revelation to us.
http://www.carm.org/bible.htm
September 20, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Craig Dorsheimer [formerly Lee]
Louise,
The DaVinci Code is fact plus fiction. Please keep in mind this is exactly how the serpent deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden. Here’s an excellent online booklet available at RBC ministries about this book:
Click to access the_da_vinci_code_separating_fact_from_fiction.pdf
Take a look at this when you get a chance.
Also, I wish to challenge you here. You indicated you read the DaVinci Code yet you have very little time to read the Bible. I would like to stress that you could trade time like this to read your Bible instead of secular books. I guarantee you’ll be less confused!
If you haven’t done so, start in the New Testament preferably in the Gospel of John.
As you post any questions here I’ll be glad to comment on them.
In Christ,
Craig
September 21, 2008 at 6:44 am
Louise
Craig,
The Da Vinci code was a recommended read from my older cousin and I felt I would rather read it than watch the movie. I read it over my summer break when I could remember what free time is (Even now I’m stealing 5 minutes from my history homework) I don’t even have a bible in my room, there’s one in our attic but my dad hasn’t got it down yet and would kill me if I tried to retrieve it myself. In future when I do not have four huge essays due in consecutive days I will be gald to read the bible but I’m just too busy studying for exams right now. Is that an honest enough answer to your challenge? If I could I would but right now I simply can’t.
Just becouse something is “truthful and authoritive” doesn’t make it any easier for me to understand it. Why go to all the trouble of writing something we are supposed to follow when it’s something that no one truly understnads. Each man has his own perspective of what the bible means to him but these are not necessarily true, maybe some of these that seem right are wrong and could be angering God more and more when they are practised. Maybe I’m wrong but it just occured to me one day and since the n I’m trying not to listen to just one opinion of what the bible is, rather serveral becaseu Ic annot tell which is right and which is wrong. I believe that many face this dilemma but few try to do anything about it.
September 21, 2008 at 6:45 am
Louise
Kim? Are you the person that made this site? Am I supposed to see eyes flash momentarily on the screen when I click “Submit Comment”?
September 21, 2008 at 7:31 am
cheryl U.
Lousie,
If you don’t have a Bible, there are some wonderful online sites where the Bible is printed in full. The one I would recommend is Blue Letter Bible. Here is the link: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
There is a drop list on the main page that has every book of the Bible listed. I would recommend starting in the New Testament also. Someone else recommended the Gospel of John as a good place to start if I remember right. I agree with that recommendation.
To the right of the drop list there is a menu where you can choose which translation you want to read. I would recommend the NASB (New American Standard Bible) as one that is easy to read. If you don’t pick a specific version, you will be reading the King James Version which is very archaic language and therefore can be difficult to understand.
If you can “steal” five minutes from homework to go online, please try to find at least that long a day to start reading the Bible. And when you have more time, you can get into it a lot deeper. Remember, this is God’s Word to mankind, and it is therefore extremely important that we read and know it.
God bless you in your search.
Cheryl
September 21, 2008 at 7:33 am
cheryl U.
P.S. Louise,
Just in case you aren’t aware, the book of Matthew is the first book in the New Testament. It doesn’t give that info in the drop list on that site.
September 21, 2008 at 8:21 am
Kim
Louise,
Now you have two recommendations for the Blue Letter Bible. It is a great site. You may want to use select the NKVJ or NASB bible version to read. If you have questions on the passage go back to the KJV version. You can click on the L which is the third box on the left of passage for commentaries. I like to go Text Commentaries. Try David Guzik. He is easy to understand. Once you do this a couple of times you will used to the process and it is easy.
NO. You are not supposed to see eyes flash on the screen. Are you still having or seeing manifestations? I too, have seen eyes flash when i was being oppressed.
September 21, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Louise
er…I’ve never seen anything other than flahes out the corner of my eyes and I put that down to my overactive imagination. I’ll be honest…I’m good at english but I have absolutely no idea what opressed means…sorry
Maybe it was just my imagination again but it did kind of freak me.
September 21, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Kim
I didn’t mean to exaggerate what you told me about seeing eyes when the Submit Comment was clicked. Oppressed means to be contacted, frightened, or experiencing the demonic spirit world.
September 22, 2008 at 11:05 am
Louise
ooooh right got it.
They look the same as the ones at the top of the page so i figured the page jupms to the top for a millisecond before going back to the bottom, i didn’t realise this and overreacted…sorry!
October 4, 2008 at 8:49 am
Mark
hey
this site is very intersetsing, ive been rading it for some time.
Just a wuick question though, what’s it actually like to be opressed?
October 4, 2008 at 1:20 pm
Kim
Hi Mark,
When a person opens themself to the spirit world they are usually in contact with an evil spirit. Of course this evil spirit counterfeits God. For awhile everything may seem fine but problems start to occur. This evil spirit can cloud the mind with occult thought (God is in everything, God is doing new thing, etc.) destroy the peace of the believer, and generally cause confusion in the mind. The person who thinks they are in contact with God often cannot link the depression that often occurs when delving in the occult world with the initial contact. There is usually spiritual confusion for the Christian and this suffering is cause by evil spirits. I have read about many instances and case reports where depression occurs after paranormal (outside of our normal senses) contact has occured.
Then there is oppression in the physical sense. One may see or hear the spirits. Or one may feel wind or heat on the body. The spirit of God cannot be felt by the physical senses. So if someone is feeling a rush of wind on the face, it is not from God. If someone is hearing noises during the night…not from God. If you are hearing a voice claiming to be God. Nope. I know…I have experienced the last three things.
You may want to look at this on-line book. I do not agree with everything in it but it is very informative about the spirit world.
http://www.apostasynow.com/wots/Contents.html
October 4, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Mark
thank you for your advice, but none of this applies to me. I am very interested in the paranormal but recently I’ve been angry at everyone for no reason, I’m always in a bad mood and I’m balimg myself. Poeple are trying to help me but i’m pushing tham away. I hate myself for being angry at those who do not deserve it and am generally ver confused. I guess I just thought this was the problem…maybe not.
Do you think I’m crazy?
October 4, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Kim
Mark,
I don’t think you are crazy at all. You are recognizing a problem and seeking answers.
Have you been involved with the paranormal at all? Meditation? Yoga?
Are you a Christian?
October 5, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Mark
er…I can’t actually do yoga, im not that flexible. I think we kinda did a tai chi meditaion thing at a drama group once.
Yes I am a fully practising christian at the moment.
Thank goodness for that, I don’t particularly want to spend my saturday’s talking to a shrink in a stupid suit.
October 5, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Kim
Mark,
What do you mean “at the moment?”
Giving your life to the Lord Jesus Christ is really a total surrender of your life to His will and purposes. A repentance of sin and knowing that Jesus died on the cross for forgiveness of your sins.
If you have done this you should have a hunger for the Bible and living to please the Lord. If this is the case then you may be experiencing opposition from Satan. He will do all he can to discourage your Christian life. The more you want to do for the Lord the more opposition the Christian faces.
There are accounts of many new Christians who face Satan telling them things like:
“you can’t do this”, “you are not good enough” etc…….
You said you were interested in the paranormal….please stay away from these things, they are not of God.
Please pray that in the name of Jesus Christ, that the devil leaves you alone. The Bible says “Resist him and he will flee.” I will pray for you.
October 6, 2008 at 11:17 am
Mark
I mean that I go to church on a regular basis and I do my best to believe in christ. I just don’t see how a person can’t respect their religion but have their own beliefs at the same time. I mean I’m christian but I still believe in Karma and from what I’ve read you know that there are spirits, evil or not around us, you’re just afraid to admit it becuase of your religion! Why can’t a person have freedom of rights to believe what they want?
October 6, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Kim
Mark, if you are Christian then you follow Jesus Christ and nothing and no one else. No other Gods, no other religions. The word Christian has often been used wrongly. Many thinks it means.. i dunno…something like..not pagan…but this is not the case. True Christians follow only Jesus and live their lives for Him instead of themselves.
Karma is an eastern belief and has nothing to do with Christianity. The thought process of “what goes around comes around” is not biblical. The Bible teaches that the gods of the world are evil. Whether it is Buddha, Baal, or Brahma, these are false gods. II Corinthians says these gods are evil influences who have blinded the minds of those who do not believe in Jesus Christ as Lord.
Psalm 96:5 says “For all Gods of the nations are worthless idols” You cannot mix Christianity with other beliefs. God hates a mixture.
Yes, there are spirits around us. The Bible is full of examples of demons being cast out of people, the fallen angels being thrown to earth, etc… I believe from what you have said earlier, that you are being influenced by evil spirits. They do not want you to turn to Jesus. They hate Jesus.
These spirits are not to be contacted.
Deutermony 18 is clear on this:
“Thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
There shall not be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth divination, [or] an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
For all that do these things [are] an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.”
So, this tells us we are not to consult with the spirits, or the dead, consult astrology, because God hates these things.
Every man and woman has the choice to accept or reject Jesus Christ, as the Son of God. This is an eternal decision.
I am not afraid to admit knowledge of the spirits arounds us at all. In fact, the Bible gives much information about the spirit world. But we are not to access the spirit world because they are demons pretending to be angels, light or knowledge, ascended masters, UFOS, etc. It is all a deception.
October 6, 2008 at 4:03 pm
cheryl U.
Hi Mark,
I would just like to add a note to what Kim has been telling you in her comments. In the Bible Jesus tells us, “Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.” That is found in John 14:6. In this one sentence, He makes it very plain that the only way to contact the one true God is by coming to Him through Jesus as Kim has told you about above. All other ways are false and will only lead to problems now and separation from God for all of eternity. Please remember, that it is God Himself that says Jesus is the only way.
October 7, 2008 at 11:17 am
Mark
ok you cant believe in tehe paranormal but you admit it exists? Ive been thinking lately “What God would do this to the world?” its “supposed” to be a happy place where humans can coicide peacefully so why have we been bombing Iraq for the past 5 years? Why were there all those problems with Georgia? Global Warming? Credit Cruunch? Cancer? If God loves us so much, why does he let this happen? Why do even the people most devoted to God still suffer and die? People who believe in God do not have a beter life than those who dont. And whats with damning people to Hell if God forgives everything??
Nothing makes any sense. “blind faith” too right! He doesnt make anything clear! Nothing ever makes sense!
October 7, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Kim
Yes…the other spirit world exists but we are not to tap into it.
Man has turned away from the true God. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and Moses. When man rejects God,…trouble will follow. God has not turned away from man, it is the other way around. He did not let all these things happen, we have.
It is true that many devoted to Jesus Christ will suffer. In fact we should. Those who follow Jesus will be mocked, and persecuted for their fairth. This is something i accept. We are asked to pick up a cross and carry it.
Paul the great apostle suffered pain, but the Lord told him that His grace would be enough. Also we are to be satisfied with our circumstances and cling to the Lord when we suffer. The time we will spend here on earth is just a snap of the fingers compared to eternity. We are to remain, serve HIm and be occupied until Jesus returns to earth as He promised.
I suffer at times but also I have a joy in me that surpasses all. The Lord gives me peace in times of trouble. We are not promised a better life here on earth, but believers are promised to be with Jesus for eternity.
God does forgive the repentant. He does forgive every sin that is confessed.
Is there someone at your church that you can talk to? Also open your Bible. Pray to God that He will reveal Himself in the scriptures. He loves you and desires you to come to Him.
Will you just right now turn to Jesus and ask Him to help you? He hears our cries when we call out to Him. If you believe in Him and put your faith in Him, and confess to Him that you are sinner, He will save you. Your life will change and things will start to make sense.
Mark, Jesus is everything. He is the reason we exist.
October 7, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Louise
Mark,
“I go to church on a regular basis” Can I ask, do you go to church because you have to, because you want to believe but can’t or because you do believe in God but just have too many questions?
Everyone has hard times in their lives and blame God, I have, lots of times, you’ll get past it. I learned here that even if you don’t want to, just keep on believing and the time will pass, good things happen to those who wait. But please, don’t take my word for it, i have no common sense
October 8, 2008 at 8:50 am
Mark
I don’t know, I’ve just always went I guess. I do have a lot of questions about God but I’m having no luck finding any answers, it’s so frustrating! I know that everybody has hard times but mine never seems to end!!!
Seems like you have some common sense judging by what you’re saying
October 9, 2008 at 8:34 am
Louise
Ok then, look, everyone has hard times, and gets frustrated when they can’t get any answers but just trust that God will get you through your doubts and he will. Faith isn’t about knowing everything about what you believe, it’s about learning what you can and trusting what you do know.
Try talking to the priest (or preacher or whatever) in your local church, they might be able to help you a bit, I know mine did!
October 9, 2008 at 9:09 am
Mark
Thank you, that helps.
If you had such a hrd time yourself, how did you deal with it since you were angry with God?
October 9, 2008 at 9:13 am
Louise
I wrote, I got a big notebook and wrote stories, songs and poems. I always carry a notebook and pen with me just in case I get an idea for something to write. That doesn’t mean that it’s how you will cope, it just worked for me I have a sadistic sense of humour and apparently when it comes to writing, for me, thats a good thing. Maybe you could try music or art or something. Oh! Or homework 😉
October 9, 2008 at 9:14 am
Mark
Really? cool, can I read some of it?
I guess I could try drawing, it’s sort of fun I guess
thank you!
October 9, 2008 at 9:19 am
Louise
er…okay I guess
http://www.quizilla.com/user/natsumixcyd/
they’re not that great.
October 9, 2008 at 9:35 am
Mark
Yes they are, and thank you.
bye.
October 10, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Louise
Thank you
October 24, 2008 at 4:19 am
joy cruz
Hi kim, i dont know if you will still be able to read my comment, but I tatally agree with you. The third eye is a very serious matter. As a doctor, i see this as just a normal or everly active function of the pineal gland, which we all know is the key to this 3rd eye. But mind you, this may just be a gland but this serves not just a gateway to heaven but a gateway to hell. A dimensional bridge between both worlds, the good and the bad. At this time, satan can manifest as a good spirits and even an angel, remember, that lucifer the devil or satan was once an angel standing beside god, the only problem is, unlike god, he wasnt perfect, he got jealous and wants to take over god’s realm thus a battle between good and bad came about, thus the bad angels were cast out of heaven. These fallen angels most especially lucifer vowed to take revenge, to turn men evil thus god would lose his following. Now, this third eye was place there for a reason, this was before the battle of god and lucifer. It was placed on each of us mortals as a way to communicate with god, the angels and higher spirituals. However, after the said battle of good and evil, god closed that third eye so that the chances for lucifer now satan to gain access or communications with mortals will be lessened. Thus this 3rd eye was kept closed or shall we say, it lies dormant till its awakened and opened again. And a lot of things can open our 3rd eyes, as mentioned before by kim, meditation alone can open our third eyes however this can also be opened with trauma to our head, diseases of the brain, and even very traumatic experience can lead to the opening of the 3rd eye. And once it is opened, it cannot be closed anymore, even if it can be closed, it wont be perfectly closed or permanently closed anymore since the seal has already been removed. The mind now is open to all frequencies, all that is beyond normal things, he may acquire extraordinary abilities or powers or skills. It may be wonderful to imagine but not all things are great. You may see unwanted spirits, feel unwanted emotions and experiences. He may see or feel things which can destroy him in the end. He may use these abilities for selfish reasons, to destroy and lucky enough if he uses them for good. Now why am I so keen on discouraging the opening of the 3rd eye, thats because first, i’m a catholic, 2nd, my third is partially open (i didnt try to open it, traumatic experience triggered it to almost open totally) and I couldnt live a day without being aware of everything around me, there is always this feeling that i cant shake off, there are a lot more I could tell you but maybe next time and 3rd, satan is very devious, wily and evil that he will do everything to lure us to his path. Prayers to Jesus Christ is the only way…HE IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND LIFE…BELIEVE IN HIM AND WE WILL BE SAVED. God bless us all.
October 24, 2008 at 8:24 am
MARY B
Joy,
the spiritual battle of the christian is truly in the mind. The emotions will follow. Please get grounded in solid biblical study.
I suggest John Piper’s website
http//www.desiringgod.org
October 24, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Kim
Hi Joy,
Thank you for writing. I have had to go through your comment sentence by sentence and I have to say I pretty much agree with most of everything you say. The pineal gland is indeed a key concept to the opening of the third eye and it can be opened in various ways. For the most part i do believe that the abilities or skills that are derived from the opening of the gateway is really a deception and not a medical or physical function. I am not sure how to put this is in proper or medical terms.
Just like the occult kundalini power surging up the spine is actually a satanic power….not some divine mystical universal force passing through fancy named gateways called chakras. It is just a demonic spirit pretense. A romantic and hypnotic story made up to fool those who want to believe they have found enlightenment.
I do not believe however that mankind was ever to communicate with God through some third eye gland. Adam and Eve experienced and fellowshiped with God directly in the Garden of Eden. They were NOT to eat of the fruit which would open their eye. Satan said to Eve, “For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as Gods…” So the disobedience opened their eye to sin. So opening the third eye is an opening to sin.
Interesting though when going to the Strongs Hebrew for eyes #H5869, it is singular, eye.
But it has been my understanding that God does not want us to communicate with Him in this manner. We are to go the Bible. The site that Mary recommended is a good one.
I do think it is true that once the veil of the mind is penetrated it is difficult to close it. Many cases i have read about state that this is the case. For instance Brian Flynn who wrote Running Against the Wind experienced much opposition from Satan after turning to Christ. But other cases, upon complete renunciation, have been given complete freedom from demonic opposition and infliction.
In my case, when i discovered i had been opened through anti-depressant drugs, my “messages” , “visions” stopped almost immediately when I asked God to take away these things from me. Even though I was not totally off of the drugs because i was weaning myself slowly off of them. I still though occasionally hear a sound at night, or feel that I am being severly tested, or oppressed. I read scripture and pray. I resist the devil and he flees. I read the Ephesians 6 on spiritual warfare.
So I believe that the Lord can close the pathway that was opened up between the two dimensions, but the person has to truly want it. If someone feels they have been receiving special messages, it does make them feel “special” or “enlightened”, or “chosen.” It is hard to give it up. It is hard to admit decpetion. But this is pride. That is why humility and wanting to bear a cross is truly part of being a servant of Christ.
Yes, Jesus Christ is the only way. No one comes to the Father, except through Him.
December 19, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Gma
Fear Kim,
It is interesting to see how you decided not to answer all William’s questions. I won’t make you answer all of the but I would really like to know what you have to say on this.
“I find it intersting that the only true peacful religions in this world are those that meditate. Catholics and Christians have been the most violent and evil religions on earth and tell their followers that mediatation is evil. Why is that?”
Peace and Love
December 19, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Kim
I see no comment from a William so i am unsure of what you mean.
Simple….True followers of Christ turn the other cheek and do not repay evil with evil. Christianity is not a religion it is a relationship with Jesus Christ.
Listen to what Jesus says in Matthew 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”
There have been many false Christians in the past and there still are today.
I just read “Out of India” by Caryl Matrisciana. She grew up in India and saw first hand the poverty of heart and mind of the people deeply involved in Hinduism. She herself tried Roman Catholicism, Yoga, TM and meditation, only to find herself falling into despair, confusion, and anger from the seeking of altered states.
But when she found Jesus she says
“I was shocked by the simplicity of God’s loving plan…I remember hundreds of times I had completed the circuit of the Stations of the Cross around the Roman Catholic churches worldwide….What about the numerous hours I had prayed with automatic emptiness? Had all my efforts been to no avail toward my eternal destiny?” (pg 95)
“God was enabling me to do what was right – to start a new life of living for Him rather than seeking my own desires. How vastly different was that venture from all my others; instead of seeking pleasure, I was fearfully leaving behind everything I cherished. And yet, so great is God’s power to work in us…..I had found the greatest treasure of all knowing Christ! (pg 105)
December 19, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Gma
Thank you for your response, Kim.
What happens to all the Righteous people who live in different places on earth and Never heard of Jesus Christ?
I am asking because you are saying on your page that good works alone will not save one.
Do those Righteous people go to Hell?
December 20, 2008 at 11:10 am
Kim
Hi Gma,
First lets look at the word righteous. Here is a biblical definition.
This is taken from Romans 1:17
“For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written. The righteous will live by faith.”
So righteousness is being “in the right” in one’s relationship with God. We can “come clean” before God by repenting of our sin. The OT is full of the sacrificial system which pointed to Jesus on the cross. Once Jesus died for us, the sacrifice had been completed.
Romans 3 also teaches “There is no one righteous, not even one.” I know this flies in the face of the do-gooders who think that their good works will get them into heaven. But this is not true. How many time has one heard the phrase, “brownie points.” God will not look at brownie points.
Here is the answer.
Romans 3:23-24
“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God and are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”
What an amazing God we have. Righteousness is availabe to us only through God’s grace. We can’t DO anything to deserve this. It is a gift. And this is the heart of the gospel. The good news is that it is available and it has been made known to us. We can stop our fruitless striving and instead trust Jesus.
But we must deal with God’s wrath against mankind. The churches today have opted out of these passages in favor of only a loving and forgiving God.
God reveals Himself to people, so man has no excuse. We are free to reject or further seek God. Those who have never heard of Jesus will be judged accordingly. God is a just God.
I listened once to a sermon which told of a missionary who traveled to Africa to spread the Gospel. Once there he discovered that the natives already knew about God in their hearts. But they rejected Him and their hearts were hardened. “They loved their sin.” (Paris Reidhead)
So what about you or anyone reading this? Are you truly seeking God or are you basing your life on some kind of secular morality? Are your questions meant to seek answers or are you hoping they will not be totally answered? Are you seeking God or running away from God?
Are you storing up wrath against yourself? (Romans 2:5) Are you on the right (righteous) path?
First you must recognize that you are on the wrong path. Next you have to turn away from sin and repent. Third, commit yourself to Jesus Christ and trust in Him for your salvation. Fourth, follow the commands given in God’s Word.
Yes, this is an eternal decision.
December 20, 2008 at 12:14 pm
Gma
Thank you for your answer, Dear Kim,
The people is Africa knew God way before the European Christians came with the Bible, stole the land and committed the biggest Holocaust in history, the African Holocaust, where over 100 MILLION AFRICANS WERE KILLED.
These Africans already knew God. They knew that taking someone’s life away was evil, they knew that cheating was evil, they already had that knowledge. They did not need any missionary nor they need any missionary now.
Now, we are trying to convert the whole Iraq to Christianity:
I say live and let everyone else live.
I will also tell you what the NEW AGE really is. The New Age is NOTHING else but the Ancient African/Kemetic (Egyptian) knowledge. It is not “new” but “old”. It is only new to the West, that have just recently “discovered” it, which is the reason they call it “new”
What I will also tell you is the the so-called “New Agers” have less than 10% of this knowledge that the Kemetic people had. The Greeks and Romans went to Kemet(Egypt) to STUDY these things but the Egyptians were not that dumb and they did not give the Greeks and the Romans all their knowledge but only a very small portion of it.
Last but not least, before you start playing with the third-eye or meditation, you have to get rid of all the FEAR, GUILT, JUDGMENT, etc. You have to be filled with Unconditional Love, at peace with the whole world and all people. Even Jesus said that before you come to God, you must first be at peace with your neighbor.
And remember, a lot of people who are trying to be your Spiritual Teachers, do not know A THING about what they are doing, which is another reason people go through those bad experiences. This is Ancient Kemetic Knowledg, remember. Most people of today don’t have enough of this knowledge to guide anyone.
Peace
December 20, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Kim
I agree that the new age is nothing new. It is the same thing just repackaged. Lukewarm and apostate Christians are falling for new age practices in the church, like visualization, contemplative prayer, astral projection, yoga, etc. right and left. They have no discernment.
The writers of the New Testament warn Christians of gnosticism which is just another name for the secret wisdom. A false gospel, false teachers, a spirit which is not the Holy Spirit.
The lie of the secret wisdom is found right off the bat in Genesis 3:5 “your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil” The fall of man and his pride is the result of our world today. Sickness, greed, hunger, poverty, hell on earth for those who do not know the Lord.
In fact the secret doctrine can be traced to Hitler. At the very end of Hitler’s notorious book Mein Kampf, Hitler closed with these words,
“And I want also to reckon among [Nazi heroes] that man, who, as one of the best, by words and by thoughts and finally by deeds, dedicated his life to the awakening of his, of our nation: Dietrich Eckart.”
Blavatsky’s signature publication was a huge volume entitled “The Secret Doctrine,” which claimed to illuminate the true origins of mankind and our relationship with the Ascended Masters. At the end of Dietrich Eckart’s life, as he lay dying, he offered these final words regarding his infamous protege,
“Follow Hitler! He will dance, but it is I who have called the tune. I have initiated him into the ‘Secret Doctrine,’ opened his centers in vision and given him the means to communicate with the Powers. Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced history more than any other German.” (quote taken from http://www.redmoonrising.com/21Defense/defense.htm)
In Exodus we have an account of the false gods of the Egyptians and the God of the Bible. In the plagues Pharaoh’s magicians could only duplicate a few of them by their secret arts, and had to relent saying, “This is the finger of God.”
All the plagues discredited the false gods. The people lost their animals, crops, the water from the sacred nile. They worshiped frogs so God sent them so many frogs that they laid rotting and stinking. So where were their Gods? Nowhere. The gods of the eqyptians were useless and futile.
I have talked with many Christians who have had their third-eye opened, whether it by drugs, yoga, contemplative prayer or eastern meditation. They experience spiritual problems. They cannot pray anymore and dislike the Bible. They often experience depression and oppressions.
When these practices are renounced and they pray for forgiveness, the occult influences leave.
I will have to take a look at Kemetic Knowledge. There are many terms for the same esoteric knowledge from the “ascended masters” (demons)
December 20, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Gma
Hello Kim,
I see where you are coming from. You are a person with an already established belief system, which is fine as I respect and honor Free Will.
Your way of thinking is like most Christians who think their way is the only way and they have the ‘whole truth’. But the fact that your truth is not everybody else’s truth and you would be a hypocrite if you didn’t acknowledge it. I know that my liberty ends where the next person’s liberty begins. That is all. I am glad that you have found your way to “heaven” but that doesn’t mean that you should tell another person who found her/his way that she/he will not achieve Eternal Life. Come on now, Kim.
You know who suffers from silly diseases and sickness the most? Christians. Why? Because they do not take care of their temples by eating meat, dairy, and other harmful products trying to justify that they are allowed by God to eat dead animal flesh.
Jesus said that we can do what he does. He didn”t perform any miracles but we call it miracles nowadays because we are so disconnected from God that we don’t even know our powers.
Btw, babies are born in the Alpha state with their Pineal Glands (third-eyes) wide opened, which is the reason they always play with their “imaginary friends”. They are pure and clean not affected by this hell (the earth). They are pure until they grow up and go through all the brainwashing.