What is the Third Eye and why should Christians know about it.
First let’s look at Wikipedia:
The 3rd or Inner Eye – A metaphysical opening which refers to the 6th chakra (brow), that leads to higher consciousness. A new age symbol of enlightenment.
Okay… so the Third Eye is a psychic ability connected to the occult. Dictionary.com defines occult as knowledge of secret or supernatural powers, beyond the the range of ordinary senses, or secret/hidden information only available to the initiated.
Next we need to know how one “opens” this Third Eye. The main way that one opens himself up to the spirit realm, is through meditation. It is through meditation that one achieves an altered state of consciousness. Constantly you will find that meditation, or the emptying of one’s mind, is the doorway to all metaphysical activity.
Back to the 6th chakra. The chakras usually relate to yoga, but not always. The 6th chakra in yoga is the brow. When kundalini (serpent power) rises to the the brow, there is enlightenment that is characterized by light. Those using yoga as a means of enlightenment get results by meditation, forced breathing patterns and using unnatural positions to force the power at the base of the spine upwards with the crown chakra as the main goal.
Another way enlightenment occurs is through meditation and visualization. Certain techniques are used to “see” and direct the serpent power up the spine through the chakras (nerve centers/wheels).
Here is another description. The kundalini rises and then goes into the brain and then down into the pituitary gland which awakens the pineal gland. When they meet there is union. This is an initiation of the birth of passage into another dimension and beyond. This is supposed to cause an explosion of light.
The third eye is also known as:
The middle eye of Shiva in Buddhism.
In Hinduism it is the eye of clairvoyance. This Hindus wear the Tilak. The red spot between the brows. When I was researching my Goddess Worship post, I looked at a link, describing Christian women who have been applying the red spot on their forehead and worshiping each other’s divinity.
In Egypt it is known as The Eye of Horus or the Eye of Osiris.
In Freemasonry, it is the All Seeing Eye. The same one that is found on our one dollar bill. This All Seeing Eye is surrounded by light.
But the eye usually means the same…esoteric knowledge that man so desires. This eye represents the passing into a spiritual world than man has no business entering. It is forbidden because it will deceive and oppress.
In Genesis 3:5-7 For God doth know..then your eyes shall be opened and ye shall be as Gods…knowing Good and Evil….And the eyes of them both opened.
The Hebrew word for eyes is not plural but singular so what the serpent said was that their eye would be broadened by knowledge. Scripture here is not talking about the physical organ but the eye of the soul.
So for today…opening yourself up or opening your third eye is the same. It is opening a gate between two worlds. Meditation is a sure way of accomplishing this opening up of yourself especially through Contemplative prayer. This is simply meditation masked with Christian terminology. The fear that accompanies entrance into deep meditative levels is there for a reason…it is a warning from God.
I have been reading a manual for opening the third eye from, “The Awakening of the Third Eye” by Samuel Sagan.
It immediately states that meditation is not for relaxation, and that the third eye is the gate that leads within.
Here are some quotes:
“Developing the third eye is a direct way of expanding your conscious universe and discovering your essential values, so that you may fathom your own mystery.” (page 13)
“Suppose an angel comes to you, truly. If you have been trying to visualize angels every morning for a few months how will you know whether it is a true angel or one that you made up…The real problem is, once these visions come to you, how to discern what is real from what is a fancy of the mind” [page 18]
[I thought this was very interesting..he was acknowledging that visualization created visions from your own making]
“You see the universe and it’s finality completely different…It is not what you believe or what you have read that will change your spiritual life..it is what you can experience directly.” [page 18]
[See how a change of worldview is suggested here and the Bible eliminated]
“Whenever there is a vibration or a light, there is a being behind it” (page 160)
[The Bible tells us that Satan comes as a white light]
“What to do with an angel? Let its glory become alive in you…to worship a god first you have to become a god.” (page 161)
[How many times have we seen this? Almost all communications from the spirit world tell us that we are as gods, just like the serpent in Genesis]
“This tragedy is quite common. There are many people who seem to be desperate for spiritual progress. They go on crying ‘I wish God could help me’…and if you look above them, what can you see? Guides and angels who keep whispering ‘Please tune into us, please receive our light‘…If these people could tune in, they would immediately receive a shower of spiritual gifts.” (page 185)
[Light? We already know what the “light” is in the metaphysical world. It is Satan. And this shower of spiritual gifts?..hmmm..]
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Have you ever read the prophecies of those on the Elijah list? Have you ever had someone tell you that they have a continual conversation with God throughout the day? Have you listened to those who proclaim to the world that their visions are from God? Have you ever heard a prophet say that he could forgive your sins for you? Have you ever heard a TV evangelist say that “I am a God”? Have you ever attended a meeting where the “spiritual” gifts are so numerous that chaos erupts?
I do believe that spiritual gifts are available to us today for the edification of the church…I also believe that many are the products of divination, and are false. We have to discern what is God’s truth and what is man’s truth. The Bible is the deciding factor.
Is it possible that some Christians and some who claim to be Christian have opened themselves up to demonic forces and truly believe they are hearing from God, but are not? YES! That spirit guides and angels you have summoned from another metaphysical realm are holy? NO! They are not holy.
In a world that is giving way to a New Age, a new spiritual mysticism, we have to, as Christians, discern what is from God and what is not. We are to test the spirits.
I John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
I beg of you..do not practice anything that is at all similar to eastern meditation. Meditation is the common factor to all metaphysical and ungodly methods. If you have ….stop and repent…..ask God’s forgiveness.
The goal of the New Age is to unite all religions. Hold strong onto your faith in Jesus Christ. I know many reject this but…. He is indeed THE ONLY WAY.
John 14:6 “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
Also remember that Satan is a great counterfeiter and deceiver. He imitates the things of Christ. Satan is not the light. The Lord Jesus Christ is.
So this verse bears repeating.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light .
Pray daily that the Lord will give you discernment in these last days of great deception. Discern the light of the world, Jesus, from the counterfeit light of Satan’s enlightment. Many caught up in this spiritual deception and false system are experiencing the darkest time in their lives. Depression, anxiety, panic attacks seem to be common factors among those who have crossed over into this forbidden world. Those dark spirits who follow you do so because you invited them.
Jesus Christ demonstrated His power over the demonic world. Only He can cast out those dark spirits. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ who triumphed over Satan and sin on the cross. He rose again. He is our Savior and will cleanse us from sin and fill us with the Holy Spirit. Faith is trust. Trust in Him.
kim


336 comments
September 3, 2007 at 1:04 am
Peg
Kim — Just remembered I wanted to comment on this post. Excellent stuff in here, lots of good info!
I just wanted to add a note of personal experience that always “got to me”. I dabbled in Hinduism a little back in high school so I’ve been aware of the concept of the “third eye” for some time. OK so ten years later I’m getting confirmed in the Episcopal church. During the service the bishop lays hands on each one of us individually, prays for us, and makes the sign of the cross on our foreheads. When the bishop came to me, he made the sign of the cross right over the spot where the “third eye” would be! It was as if the cross was taking its place, or standing guard for me against the forces of darkness. It’s a moment I’ll never forget. Talk about grace, eh?
— Peg
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September 4, 2007 at 6:12 am
basicallygood
This bears repeating!
“Pray daily that the Lord will give you discernment in these last days of great deception.”
Awareness is essential – awesome post!
September 4, 2007 at 7:22 am
Mary
Peg,
I may not be understanding you correctly. But because I was raised catholic I thought there was some mystical protection over me when the priest made the sign of the cross. I hope you aren’t saying that. It’s your faith in Christ’s all sufficiency and power as Lord over former evil experiences ie. hinduism practices you dabbled in and not the sign of the cross. I may be exaggerating what you are saying. So forgive me if I am.
September 4, 2007 at 7:24 am
Mary
BTW great post Kim. Very timely. At the risk of sounding Brittish which I am not- Spot On!
September 4, 2007 at 10:23 am
oxysmoron
I enjoyed reading your post.
people really don’t understand what they open themselves up to and also when they just jump in and believe everything they hear without…
“testing the spirit”.
“my people perish for lack of knowledge”…
one never knows what to Beware of when they are not AWARE.
thanks for the good reading.
October 13, 2007 at 10:29 pm
william waring
I find it intersting that the only true peacful religions in this world are those that meditate. Catholics and Christians have been the most violent and evil religions on earth and tell their followers that mediatation is evil. Why is that? Also, in Genisis the snake (satan) told the truth and your god lies to Adam and Eve about what would happen if they ate the ‘apple’. They did not die. Yes, mediatation will open the third eye ( I have and I am about love and peace and oneness with the father god of the universe) and is natural and part of man. The Jews didn’t want their followers to find out and thus lose the money from their mandated ‘monetary donations’-which is how they mantained their power and control.The same same as with todays so called religions of god. It’s funny how god seems to be so powerful and great but when it comes to money he is always in need.- I also find it troubleing that when Moses came down from the mountain the first time with the ten commandments he saw his people worshipping a golden calf and then had all those involved murdered-all the while one of God’s commandments was/is ‘Thall shall not kill’–odd wouln’t you say? You nedd to tell the truth-the Jews had changed their ‘God’ several times before the new terastament and that the ‘God’ of the old testament is not the same god Jesus spoke of. Jesus even disegarded all the so called laws of the old testament and also the jews(they are actually Israelites not jews-Judae is a tribe) had stopped using the laws of the old testament 300 hundreded years before after a civil war amongst the tribes(which the largest tribe of Judae won) and started using the Talmud instead. Catholics and Christians are the same when it comes to telling lies about the truth of what Jesus was talking about.
October 14, 2007 at 12:10 am
Kim
You said that satan told the truth and God told lies to Adam and Eve. They did not die.
When Adam and Eve ate of the fruit it was the fall of man. Adam did die because he was now truly mortal.
Gen 3:22…He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.
Gen 5:8 Altogether, Adam lived 930 years and then he died.
God offered Adam and Eve two trees. The tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. The second tree was forbidden and the sin that occured was the act of disobedience against God.
Two paths were set forth to Adam and Eve and also the Israelites when Moses was on the mountain.
Deut 30:19 I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live.
We are confronted with this choice every day and because man fell …satan became “prince of god of this world” .
Two paths…two choices….The immediate result of Adam and Eves disobedience was that their eyes were opened and they knew of their nakedness before God and they were ashamed.
They immediately died spiritually and later physically. Do not let satan fool you when the punishment of sin is delayed.
By accepting Jesus Christ as Savior and confessing then repenting or turning away from sin and then living by faith, only then can we have eternal life.
Romans 6:23 The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
October 22, 2007 at 7:39 pm
Tom
I’m confused. Light is bad now? Jesus’s clothes shone brilliant white during the transfiguration… God said “let there be light” and saw that it was good… the very first illustration in my Bible (the GNB) is white light passing through a prismatic Trinity to form God’s promise, the rainbow!
The translation the GNB gives of your Corinthians verse is “Even Satan can disguise himself to look like an angel of light”, which is considerably less absolute. He can, but doesn’t necessarily do it in the situations you mention, and isn’t necessarily convincing. From this phrasing I feel your “light equals Satan” assertion is considerably more blanket than is warranted.
Exercising caution is of course extremely wise, but meditation simply isn’t the evil you make it out to be – far from it, it’s what drew me to study the Bible in the first place. If you have ears to hear then discriminate, don’t lose even what you have. Thank you for a stimulating article!
October 22, 2007 at 10:44 pm
Kim
Hi Tom..nice to meet you.
I have not read the Good News Bible. I use the NIV for study BUT the KJV is the definitive Bible. I go to http://www.blueletterbible.org/ constantly to verify scripture. Here you will find the original Greek/Hebrew.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. KJV
This KJV version is what i use. While other translations try to make scripture easier to read the meaning gets watered-down.
I have a friend who uses the Net Bible. This is a also an excellent site. http://www.bible.org/netbible/
When Sagan says: “Whenever there is a vibration or a light, there is a being behind it” (page 160) he is confirming many accounts of contact in the spiritual world of the paranormal, (metaphysics). TM, advanced Yoga, mind-contol, all bring a person into an altered state of consciousness and any light one sees is not of God. The delving into the spirit world is divination and this is forbidden in the Bible.
Leviticus 19:26….”Do not practice divination or sorcery.”….NIV
Of course light is not bad. God’s light exposes evil, God’s light causes repentance because it shows us the sin we have in our hearts. God’s light is pure.
This is from the Net Bible.
I Timothy 6:16 He alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen.
The light those see in deep meditation seem to find an approachable light. They sense love and feel a connection with the universe. In contrast the prophets and Paul in the Bible fell on their faces, trembling when they experienced the power and glory and light of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Just this morning the sunlight which is now lower in the sky came streaming through my living room windows and revealed the dust on my glass coffee table and glass dining room table. I immediately cleaned them. This is how i feel when God shines His light on my heart and lays bare the sin and exposes my life to me for the sinner that i am.
This is how i view God’s light…pure, blinding, holy, cleansing, powerful, and extremely humbling. God’s light makes me humble. I need His light (word of God, Jesus) to knock me down to the ground in reverence and humility.
If light were to make me feel one with the universe or that i was in any way, shape or form, made to feel divine, then i would suspect that i was being deceived. That is my view anyway…..
November 5, 2007 at 1:53 am
Tina Jugurnauth
people can be so ignorance in life and like to think they know best telling others which path is right or wrong…The third eye consist of a path to reaching to the divine power though meditation….one should be more wanting to learn and study, research and respect beliefs…Its about values of life relating to truth, no selfishness, hypocrits, equality and listening…I believe god talks to us but we are to selfish and busy thinking unnecessary..Infact i believe meditation is the only way to get peace, happiness thus can change us to better ourselves…so all those theories about lights is satan is in fact non sense, its all about faith…faith in god and stillness in thought bring you the divine light….
November 13, 2007 at 4:13 am
james
ok ,you may very well think so, but i recommend you research the history of new age religion and the people who founded it, as well as there backgrounds. You may very well find that the path you head towards is not as holy as it seems.
December 14, 2007 at 3:17 am
Carter
ugh! why can’t you people let others practice what they want?
December 14, 2007 at 4:44 am
IWanthetruth
Because we really do care about your eternal soul and we believe, as the Bible says, that there is no other way… Not in us or through us, but in the simple way that Christ made eternal life available by us repenting and admitting we are a sinful people and believe that He is the Son of the Living God who sacrifices himself for us…
December 27, 2007 at 2:00 am
Elise
Hopefully by next year I will have a website to recount my experiences with meditation, possession and subsequent exocism. Through guidance of a guru I learned how to open my third eye and am quite aware when it is opened and fully open. Now, when I see it opening I do not know if it is doing it naturally because I had opened it for so long (weeks) or if it is being forced open. When I see the lights of the other ‘entities’ or visions of the other world (astral?) I command through Jesus Christ that all spirits leave me in His name. After a few stern times of this command my vision returns to a peaceful darkness. Jesus is real. Mary is real. Michael the Archangel is real. Satan is also real. After a meditation back in June I came out of it with the most horrible feeling in the world. Horrible. Negative and dark like you wouldn’t believe. The next day I heard voices in my head. People who hear voices are labeled crazy. I only know that many probably are possessed. I had enough sense to go to a priest. He said he knew of a priest who did exorcism. I called him and scheduled one for the next day. I spent ALL night on my knees praying and fighting demons in my head. The next day the priest exorcised what were over fifty demons that screamed out of me. I screamed at the top of my lungs for over three hours. One had me writhing and my head was going back and forth like a snake and I hissed out more air than I had in me. Another had me leaning over in the pew shaking my head so fast as it came screaming out of me. Another sounded like gail winds coming out of me. More air was coming out of me than was in me. Where it was coming from I don’t know. DO NOT MEDITATE. Everytime the priest touched me with the cross or the Bible, or sprinkled Holy water on my I screamed because I felt it burn my skin and my back arched. I was aware the whole time and I was in control somewhat. He held me in the pew by holding his hand very hard on my forehead. I got up once but he pushed me down. A wonderful woman stood behind me and had her arms around me also. When they were leaving my body it was like taking a giant spiritual shit and I could feel them leave through my physical body like pressure being released. When I closed my eyes I could see them with my third eye – they were just forms of light – light green, purple, one was very red and had the essence of burning. They were horrible entities – truly demonic. Yes, there is a devil, and as a friend of mine once said, Satan’s greatest achievement has been to convince many people that he does not exist. Mysticism, Hinduism, Buddhism – they will take you right to Satan if you are not careful. Devils possess people every day though people don’t know it. Look at some people’s behavior – need I go on. Christians are TARGETS – think about it – they are the souls on their way to heaven – they are the most valuable to capture and torment. Knock the ones off on the path. The ones aren’t on the path aren’t as valuable to Satan. One was left in me – it was very dark. But I will write about that later if you want to hear about it. I got rid of it through my feeling love for God – it left me. Jesus is there for YOU. He DOES EXIST. All that glory stuff – its REAL. Of course it is. Go into a church and pray that he comes to you because you want to find him because if he really does exist you want to be there with him, right? You want to go to heaven, right. Think this – what IF he is the only way. Isn’t it worth checking out. Your soul is worth it. May he bless all those who read my account. Here are prayers if you should get captured. Our Father, who art in Heaven; hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who treaspass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. Amen.
If you think this is all baloney then just give it a try. Pray to Jesus sincerely, as if you really do believe he’s out there. Knock and it shall be opened to you. God bless you.
December 27, 2007 at 2:49 am
Kim
Wow…what an amazing story. Thank you for telling us of your experience as it will surely save others.
I want others to know that you can also free yourself by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and turning away from all the occult practices.
Demons cannot profess the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and that He came in the flesh….you have to use the full name b/c sadly many call on an unbiblical jesus who actually a demon/spirit guide pretending to be Jesus Christ. What you said about the Bible is very important. Cling to His Word.
I encourage you to tell your story to many..God bless.
December 27, 2007 at 4:29 am
Elise
I’d also like to add, if you don’t mind, that if anyone wants to ask me questions about it, I am happy to answer but for now I only have this website. This was the first I had written about it and it feels good to finally get it out there and know that I can write more. Yes, you are right, “LORD Jesus Christ”, is the complete, correct and most powerful. I think a lot of Christians stray because new age stuff seems to equate to new accurate knowledge – which it doesn’t. There are many kind, loving people who are not Christians who meditate and do tarot cards, and seek clairvoyants, etc. with no harm done that they are aware of. I will not claim to know their fate nor should it be mine or anyone else’s position to seek ‘third eye knowledge’ to determine their fate. Note that Jesus Christ is never the source of this information. Just because some spirit a clairvoyant communicates with is on the other doesn’t mean its good. Some people are not good. And there are powerful negative spirits that can fool you and them – so why give attention when you time could be wasted and you could get possessed or oppressed. By the way, the correct term for what happened to me was oppression – sorry. This famous guru I spoke of was false prophet, almost an anti-Christ but his ‘Christian’ persuasion led me down the wrong path – probably the one he wanted looking back at all his words. One thing led to another for me – I got a tarot card reading that I had an alien implant in my aura (imagine!). This wasn’t a random reader either. Someone told me to sell it on e-bay which got lots of laughs. So, panicking, cause shoot – ya never know with all this new age stuff – where’s the line? – I went to a psychic healer to have my aura ‘cleansed’. I felt better – but different in a ‘strange’ way – thought it felt positive but looking back I can see it was totally unreal. Then I wanted to heal others myself cause I had some psychic powers – not much though – so I took classes. During ‘training’ I felt something step inside me – my healing master – who we were supposed to ask to step inside us – whew – big mistake for anyone to do that – never give permission for anything to step inside you. I never felt a ‘leaving’. Four days later I meditated and I think many ‘others’ found their way in. Sounds crazy, I know but there are malevolent spirits out there and I invited one in thinking all was fine (duh). In the past, I had prayed to be a healer. I think I had to go through all this to be a real healer – to spread the Word and to follow Jesus Christ only. There probably ARE lots of wonderful things out there but that’s for us to find out after we die because we can be fooled. We’re too helpless in this life to discern good spirits from bad. Hundreds of people saw Jesus alive after he died. The same people who saw his miracles. To fulfill all the prophesies he did would be like 1 in a million. Let me know if you want to hear more. I have a lot to say but I don’t want to hog the site. Thanks.
December 27, 2007 at 4:53 am
JeN
Uff da! As I was reading the last 3 posts the names of people were passing through my mind as those who are involved in what Elise was. Most of them are “healers.” I bring up this question again and may be Elise can answer it- Can spirits be passed from person to person? Can a massage therapist who is involved in this stuff pass things on to an unsuspecting client? Thanks!
December 27, 2007 at 11:28 am
Kim
Elise… i have a question about posting your story…would you please email me at kimmerlee42353@hotmail.com
This address is available to all. It is under the About section on the top of my blog.
Many have contacted me personally here and some have taken this opportunity to call me a “busybody” or “undereducated” or “downright ignorant.” You know…the usual stuff….
December 27, 2007 at 5:16 am
Kim
“I think I had to go through all this to be a real healer – to spread the Word and to follow Jesus Christ only.”
I have heard this before. There are many who have “come out of her” and been delivered from this evil. I think many will have questions for you..
There is no way that you can hog this site. I welcome what you have to say. Out of my 82 posts, this is the #1 sought out article. Many find it by their search engines…and the phrases they use in their searches….!!!things like yoga devil, insanity and third eye, chakras and christ, snake and scripture, holy metaphysics……
December 28, 2007 at 1:20 am
Elise
Jen – Hi! Thanks for the question – To answer it – yes, I believe they can. That’s why my warnings are so heavy because people who want to be psychically healed, or given a tarot card reading, or an aura cleansing, or a past life reading, are spiritually saying YES and giving permission, WANTING IT TO ENTER. Its a ticket. This is my opinion only but I feel that I have experienced quite a lot in this area within the last few years. During my psychic healing class we actually asked our healing master, whom we called out of thin air and whom appeared to us in our third eye (who knows who they really were) to enter us at a certain time. I definitely felt an energy enter and even sway my body a bit when it came in. We took turns all ‘healing each other’ by running our hands around each other’s aura. I saw the other woman shudder as hers entered her. When I went in for another aura healing (keep in mind I can see auras) the lady took quite a while cause we were chatting. I saw the aura bubbles of many gathered around me and coming at me but I thought nothing of it!! I trusted her and the psychic center. oish. During my exorcism/deliverance I closed my eyes and could see also many of the very same ‘bubbles’ of the entities. Its easier to ‘see’ with eyes closed. PERMISSION is a BIG thing. All this metaphysical stuff has been around for centuries but its catching on now because its mysterious and people love mystery – it can be intriguing. You have to know that malevolent spirits are very much attracted to those who have powers. It gives them an opportunity to enter people even under the guise of it being legitimate as in my classes taught by a certified teacher. She was fooled too obviously. Hard to believe she’d be an agent for the devil, you know. I can only imagine some attract swarms when they are doing their clairvoyant ‘thing.’
Ouiji boards – Ah!!! They are going through your hands! After I started meditating I changed. It seemed for the best but reality looked different to me and everything seemed different. After having all the spirits leave me I realize I was under the influence of many. Meditation can be relaxing, yes. Won’t argue with that BUT it can be dangerous and I’m NOT an expert but I have read that you can take yourself places, undesireable and uncharted territory, without realizing it and coming out of it with more than you left with. Astral projection – let’s just go fishing. All these things I was totally interested in because I thought I could help people and it was so cool to be able to look in the mirror and see the purples and blues and yellows feet from my body. I don’t know for sure about massage therapists. Could be ?? I think it all has to do with what you want and what your intention is – but again, my intentions were all good and God loving and I was attacked big time. I have always been a very aware person – aware of where I end and where I begin. When I heard voices (thought voices) that I knew were not coming from me I knew it was time to see a priest. So very sad that other people with the same problem are diagnosed as bipolar, schizoid, etc., drugged and institutionalized. One person dies a year because of exorcisms. Ok I read that on the net. Google possession and oppression. There are some good sites. Scary though – there’s also junk. Ramblin here – let me just say one more thing. Ever left a bar or some other place and felt weird like there was something following you? Like you picked up bad energy from the other customers? And you didn’t even want it. So inviting something in ain’t so good. I don’t know why we have a third eye – maybe to help us choose??? Take care.
December 28, 2007 at 1:30 am
IWanthetruth
I know people that go to these “New Age” doctors for therapy, etc. and when I question them about that and there “christian walk” how do they justify that?
They respond that they always pray Jesus into the situation knowing that they will be protected from whatever. I just don’t see that in scripture.
Thoughts on this?
December 28, 2007 at 1:51 am
Elise
Good point. At the psychic center I went to, Jesus was on some of their flyers and info on the bulletin board. I never asked the question you did – I assumed it was all ok since they ‘endorsed’ Him. I never heard them ask – maybe they thought it. Before I meditated I would always pray for protection too. Three times – as many websites recommend. But I do think there is something about doing these types of metaphysical adventures that puts you in undesireable territory – places where your angels will not tread that we silly humans want to investigate -the old fun off-trail thing. I can’t see what’s on the other side well enough to give a good answer. When I have seen into the astral its like I’m looking through a black veil. Its not very clear. I have heard this before. As I do still believe, I think a bit of truth is (my opinion again) that there are many levels to the astral realm. Where the devil actually is – I don’t know – way below that??? Compare inexperience with an age: Maybe its like a mother with children living by a river. The mother can’t watch them all the time – she doesn’t want to walk into it because theres pollutants, piranas (sp?), green mud, glass, etc. Asking your ‘mother’ to watch you as you step into the water won’t keep you from getting harmed. Assuming this child is 14 or so and knows better – it is his/her free will to go into the river. If the child is 3 (one inexperienced in the occult) and gets away while mom’s doing something else and walks into the river and starts to get swept away – of course the mother will run to rescue. I was the 3 year old and got swept far away. What I went through during that rescue and for a couple weeks after while there was still a bad one (maybe the worst) inside me was a taste of hell – literally. So if you feel you need to ask for protection – maybe you shouldn’t go near the river. I pray for protection only because I’m talking about all this. Take care.
December 28, 2007 at 1:55 am
Elise
P.S. I didn’t mean you specifically – I meant them, the teachers/doctors.
December 28, 2007 at 2:57 am
IWanthetruth
Thank you… I have specific friends who are going to these professionals that do use “new age” techniques in their practice. 1) The professionals claim to be Christian and go to main line denominational churches and 2) the patient are Christian and also go to main line denominatinal churches and a couple of them are of the pentecostal line.
I hear about “muscle testing”, “Healing Energy”, the use of Yoga and other types of processes that all seem to have some type of either “new age” or “Eastern religion foundation” to them. I just don’t believe that the bible gives us any indication that it is alright to be involved or use that in our life. In fact contrary to that, it specifically says to “stay away”, period. If you feel that you have to pray for protection why put oneself in that type of battle in the first place.
December 28, 2007 at 3:59 am
IWanthetruth
Kim,
FYI
The Berean Call
This is in my neck of the woods………
December 28, 2007 at 4:13 am
Elise
I agree. There are rules that must be obeyed or one suffers consequences. Period. We’re inbetween Heaven and hell so obviously, there’s got to be some rules. Whatever the good reason is that they exist, I am an example of why. Somehow through your everyday normal new age occult studies I got snagged. No one needs to tell me this one twice. I have no more interest in any of that stuff.
If I could just stop my third eye from opening I’d feel a lot better. I do not have demons in me – I know that. Its a chemical bodily function that triggers awareness. And by practicing it over and over my body got used to doing it. I lay down to sleep and relax and it opens and I start seeing the other side then I have to focus on intent of what I’d rather see. I do my commands and its gone. Get to sleep with prayers and then wake up. I got on this website to maybe find somebody who could tell me how to close it for good. But my commands do the trick after a very short while. Maybe I just have to retrain it. I even wondered if Jesus wanted me to keep it open for some reason! But I really don’t think so.
Your friends might want to find a pastor, deacon, priest, or bishop, etc. – someone who can tell them exactly why these practices should not be done, someone they can actually argue with – take it that far so they maybe think twice. But many may not know exactly. I can’t believe any healers can honestly say “I know what I’m doing.” The damage can be little by little until its a lot.
After it was all over for me SO many things became clearer as to what was of good and what was of evil. Video stores is a real good example. The influence is there – its not just scary movies cause that’s Hollywood now. There’s an intention manifesting. Head banger music. That’s another one. Its not like Buddy Holley in the fifties. Its not a generation thing either. And many will say “oh geez get a grip.” I felt the darkness and I am very aware of its presence whereas before I didn’t have a clue to take notice.
If there is anyone out there who has emotionally survived a deliverance/exorcism I hope they can share it with everyone too. I have searched and have not found anyone yet. I am up to participating in an online exorcism/deliverance support group. I feel a very strong need to get out there and tell people to stay away from the occult but I know Bible thumping and puritanical talk can be a real turnoff. You can’t save the world but you can save a few. The people I worry about are those that say they hear voices and don’t know what is happening to them. You always hear about them too.
December 28, 2007 at 5:39 am
Kim
Elise,
I read a book called Running Against the Wind by Brian Flynn. He was a new age medium and had spirit guides. He was a physic and gave readings, but his life was falling apart. When he first started to believe his spirit guides oppressed him badly.
He hadn’t yet realized that the guides hated Jesus, and that they were demonic. When this was realized the guides were revealed to him.
He says
“My God,” I cried out loud. I fell to my knees and began to cry. “Oh my God, my Lord, I have been wrong my entire life! You are the truth. You are the way. Please Jesus save me. Please God forgive me for I have sinned against you.” I crawled into a ball and wept like a child. He had set me free. (p85)
I believe the Lord will eventually close the eye third completely.
December 29, 2007 at 7:59 am
Kim
Iwant..
I remember from a comment of yours, maybe from SOJ that you were not too far away. Actually i have relatives close to the Berean Call. I have been watching this site for a seminar or something so i could drive down that way to attend. Let me know if you hear of something. i think i am about 4-5 hours away.
December 29, 2007 at 8:48 am
IWanthetruth
Kim,
I will keep my eyes and ears open but you might be interested in this one that is coming in 2008. Here is the confirmation I recieved of who is coming and when. We are very excited about this. I have a friend who has studied under J.P. Moreland and said he is one of the nations top leading apologetist.
This should be fantastic…
IWant
Hi friends:
We have now secured a date for the Apologetics Conference next year. The conference will be held on the weekend of November 7-9, 2008. It will be hosted at New Hope Church.
The speakers will include J.P. Moreland, one of the top Christian philosophers of our day. Also, speaking will be Craig Hazen, the head of the Apologetics program at BIOLA, and Scott Rae, a specialist in Medical Ethics.
December 29, 2007 at 9:53 am
Kim
Oh this sounds wonderful, i will mark my calendar. I will assuredly talk to you later about this.
December 31, 2007 at 5:00 am
Lee
I caught David Jeremiah this morning (not on TBN); and, I saw something strange on the stage on a screen (or something) behind him. It was purple among other colors and sure looked like the third eye, but I could be wrong. It was only visible sporadically as the camera panned back and forth from Jeremiah to the audience and then behind Jeremiah. Has anyone else seen this?
December 31, 2007 at 6:30 am
Mary
Lee,
I went to his website and watched today’s broadcast. It is a mural. It’s not a 3rd eye. It’s just an oval shape with a cross in the middle of it. Check it out. They show it up close.
December 31, 2007 at 8:49 am
Lee
WHEW! Thanks Mary. I’m glad o’ that!
February 4, 2008 at 8:22 pm
A lightworker who loves God
The Lightworkers of the World will pray for your education in all Spiritual matter…
White light only comes from God, there is no other source. Those who have never felt the healing beauty of it do not understand it. Only evil believes in evil, satan is the product of a diseased or disrupted mind here on Earth. The bible was changed long ago to hide the real truth, go to the library. lots of books there!
God bless you ignorant child 🙂
February 4, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Kim
I am not uneducated but i know you prefer to believe that i am…The book writtten by Johanna Michaelsen, “The Beautiful Side of Evil” tells of her experience as an apprentice to a psychic healer. God finally revealed to her the evil behind the white light. She felt the healing beauty and understood it to be not from God.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light .
People also like to believe that the Bible is not true…
Surprised by Faith by Don Bierle and Josh McDowell’s Evidence That Demands A Verdict are full of historic evidences that support the Bible.
I am familiar and have read books on new age teachings and theosophy. It is interesting that these teachings confirm what the Bible says. That there will be a falling away from Biblical faith and people will want to believe the gnostic teachings.
II Timothy 4:2-3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned into fables.
The gnostic teachings of “secret or ancient wisdom” are preferred over biblical truths.
I pray for wisdom and TRUTH on a daily basis. The truth is found in the Holy Bible and by revelation from the Holy Spirit who always leads to Jesus Christ.
March 2, 2008 at 1:03 pm
KnowledgeIsUltimatePower
Sadly enough, you actually believe the stuff you preach. I feel bad for you. Good luck in meeting your “God” when you pass on. I’m guessing you’ll come back as someone with different religious beliefs, that way you’ll at least learn something.
And yes, I do know that Jesus is real. He’s just not what you seem to think he is.
March 2, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Kim
Yes, Jesus is real. The truth about Jesus is in the Holy Bible. That is why i want to obey what is in scripture.
The fortunate thing about the truth in the Bible is that there is no “guessing”.
March 2, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Mary
KIUP-you said:
“And yes, I do know that Jesus is real. He’s just not what you seem to think he is.”
Talk about creating a god in your own image and to your liking. And where do you get your ideas of Jesus? Oprah?
March 3, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Lobsang
I cannot believe what I am reading. You guys do not know what you are talking about. My third eye was opened years ago and it was the most wonderful experience for me. I was trained as a child to use my third eye. The third eye simply allows you to see things that others cannot. Like auras. It also lets you communicate with the unseen world. Like being able to talk to people that are in between incarnations or have completely assended. Those of that have opened our third eye are also clarivoient. We can read thoughts. We have higher intuition. We use this power for good. Like healing people. If you want I can show you. If you want me to I can visit you in your dreams and give you a message. No matter how far you are I can simply use my third eye to travel through the astralplane and visit you. If anybody here has a sickness I would be happy to use my third eye to see the nature of the problem and help you heal. When your Jesus was a young man he had his third eye opened even more than it already was. If Jesus did it then I can’t see how you think it is a bad thing.
March 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Kim
Lobsang,
I know you believe i am ignorant and do not know what i speak of. This is okay with me. I do believe that you know what you are speaking of because what you are experiencing is very real. I know that others communicate with the unseen world.
Where we differ is where the power is coming from. There are two spirit worlds not just one.
Jesus tells us how we can obtain such a holy spiritual power. It is through belief in Him and following Him in faith. It is through daily prayer and reading of the scripture, that we become sanctified.
Others who do not follow Christ have tried to send me a message. One, a medium, could not penetrate the shield of Jesus Christ in me, and could not extract any information from me, she could not read my thoughts. Another tried to put a spell on me. It did not work. Just lately, a wiccan tried to contact me through a dream. I felt the evil and cold on the back of my neck. I immediately started praying and it left in seconds.
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
This power of Jesus Christ has overcome the one “that is in the world.”
The one in the world is the master deceiver Satan, who rules in the spirit world that is not of God, with the fallen angels, that masquerade as acscended masters or spirit guides. The false promise Satan gives of higher knowledge and illumination is the same today as it has always been since the Garden of Eden.
March 5, 2008 at 10:00 am
Leigh
Lobsang, I have to agree with Kim here as I have had to deliver persons who have opened up themselves to evil spirits by practicing Eastern Mystism. The third eye is a demonic doorway that evil spirits use in India for Gurus to levitate and astral travel.
This practice is occultic as the only time we are to leave our bodies is when we die and go either to Heaven if we are Christ’s or Hell if we are not. Satan can do “signs and wonders” Matthew 24:24 and is an angel of light deceiving many.2 Corinthians 11:14.
I have had many demons threaten myself and my family but having on the Armor of Light, the Lord Jesus Christ I am safe and secure.
Lobsang, you have been deceived by the Devil and unless you turn away from the occult practices you will spend Eternity in the flaming pit reserved for the Devil and all who follow him.
As Christians we are concerned about your final resting place and will pray that Christ opens your teue eyes through the power of the Holy Spirit.
March 5, 2008 at 2:57 pm
NWProdigal
Good, scriptural rebuttals, ladies!
March 5, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Lobsang
You Jesus (Issa) taught in our temples when he was a young man. We know this to be true. He was made the highest buddha. He had nothing against third eye. Here are some of the writings:
… He passed his time in several ancient cities of India such as Benares. All loved him because Issa dwelt in peace with Vaishas and Shudras whom he instructed and helped. But the Brahmins and Kshatriyas told him that Brahma forbade those to approach who were created out of his womb and feet. The Vaishas were allowed to listen to the Vedas only on holidays and the Shudras were forbidden not only to be present at the reading of the Vedas, but could not even look at them.
Issa said that man had filled the temples with his abominations. In order to pay homage to metals and stones, man sacrificed his fellows in whom dwells a spark of the Supreme Spirit. Man demeans those who labor by the sweat of their brows, in order to gain the good will of the sluggard who sits at the lavishly set board. But they who deprive their brothers of the common blessing shall be themselves stripped of it.
Vaishas and Shudras were struck with astonishment and asked what they could perform. Issa bade them “Worship not the idols. Do not consider yourself first. Do not humiliate your neighbor. Help the poor. Sustain the feeble. Do evil to no one. Do not covet that which you do not possess and which is possessed by others.”
Many, learning of such words, decided to kill Issa. But Issa, forewarned, departed from this place by night.
Afterward, Issa went into Nepal and into the Himalayan mountains ….
“Well, perform for us a miracle,” demanded the servitors of the Temple. Then Issa replied to them: “Miracles made their appearance from the very day when the world was created. He who cannot behold them is deprived of the greatest gift of life. But woe to you, enemies of men, woe unto you, if you await that He should attest his power by miracle.”
Issa taught that men should not strive to behold the Eternal Spirit with one’s own eyes but to feel it with the heart, and to become a pure and worthy soul….
“Not only shall you not make human offerings, but you must not slaughter animals, because all is given for the use of man. Do not steal the goods of others, because that would be usurpation from your near one. Do not cheat, that you may in turn not be cheated ….
“Beware, ye, who divert men from the true path and who fill the people with superstitions and prejudices, who blind the vision of the seeing ones, and who preach subservience to material things. “…
Then Pilate, ruler of Jerusalem, gave orders to lay hands upon the preacher Issa and to deliver him to the judges, without however, arousing the displeasure of the people.
But Issa taught: “Do not seek straight paths in darkness, possessed by fear. But gather force and support each other. He who supports his neighbor strengthens himself
“I tried to revive the laws of Moses in the hearts of the people. And I say unto you that you do not understand their true meaning because they do not teach revenge but forgiveness. But the meaning of these laws is distorted.”
Then the ruler sent to Issa his disguised servants that they should watch his actions and report to him about his words to the people.
“Thou just man, “said the disguised servant of the ruler of Jerusalem approaching Issa, “Teach us, should we fulfill the will of Caesar or await the approaching deliverance?”
But Issa, recognizing the disguised servants, said, “I did not foretell unto you that you would be delivered from Caesar; but I said that the soul which was immersed in sin would be delivered from sin.”
At this time, an old woman approached the crowd, but was pushed back. Then Issa said, “Reverence Woman, mother of the universe,’ in her lies the truth of creation. She is the foundation of all that is good and beautiful. She is the source of life and death. Upon her depends the existence of man, because she is the sustenance of his labors. She gives birth to you in travail, she watches over your growth. Bless her. Honor her. Defend her. Love your wives and honor them, because tomorrow they shall be mothers, and later-progenitors of a whole race. Their love ennobles man, soothes the embittered heart and tames the beast. Wife and mother-they are the adornments of the universe.”
“As light divides itself from darkness, so does woman possess the gift to divide in man good intent from the thought of evil. Your best thoughts must belong to woman. Gather from them your moral strength, which you must possess to sustain your near ones. Do not humiliate her, for therein you will humiliate yourselves. And all which you will do to mother, to wife, to widow or to another woman in sorrow-that shall you also do for the Spirit.”
So taught Issa; but the ruler Pilate ordered one of his servants to make accusation against him.
Said Issa: “Not far hence is the time when by the Highest Will the people will become purified and united into one family.”
And then turning to the ruler, he said, “Why demean thy dignity and teach thy subordinates to live in deceit when even without this thou couldst also have had the means of accusing an innocent one?”
March 6, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Leigh
Lobsang, I do not know where you got these quotes from but it is certainly not from the Inspired Inerrant Word of God, the Holy Bible. Jesus Christ never left the area around Jerusalem. How can you say that Christ’s other name is Issa. Christ’s other Name is I AM, Yehweh, the King of Kings and the lord of Lords, the Alpha and Omega the begginning and the End.
He is the One who will seperate the sheep from the goats, the true believers from the unbelievers. You are one of the latter unless you repent and come to a saving knowledge of the Saviour.
The Bible has been proven to be the only true word, Christ was prophesied in Isaiah 53 seven hundred years before His birth. All the prophesies have or will come true. No other book can claim that 100% accuracy.
The angel of light, Satan has invaded your mind and has deceived you and will take you with him to the lake of fire for Eternity. This is a reality, please heed our warnings.
March 6, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Lobsang
Jesus went into the wilderness and the wilderness was India and Tibet. He taught many many things. He also studied as well even though he did not need to. Jesus’ third eye was further opened in our monestaries. It was not that we had anything to do with the opening. It just was supposed to happen there. The power of Jesus was multiplied in our lands and then he returned home to complete his mission. He told our people that he had a different message for us compared to others. The scrolls in the monestaries prove thisthough they have been sealed due to westerners prying to much into them and causing problems. If you want I can give you a sign thjat what I am saying is true. I can visit you by the astral plane in your dreams and make you aware. If you have a sickness I wuld be happy to use the powers of Issa and the third eye to heal you. It is a fact that Jesus is the most powerful one. Your bible is not all of your scriptures. It was put together by men and much of the scripture was discarded. Yes Jesus even killed a person when he was a child through his powers but that was deleated. Since Jesus was God in the flesh he was allowed to do this. Your bible is a partial truth that was edited by man. These men had no authority. They were politically influenced. God says that it is a crime to only show some of the truth as it is a crime to misrepresent the truth. The spirit of the modern christians is partially correct but they also contrive to manipulate God’s word for their evil. They kill others in electric chairs and with chemicals in God’s name. They disown their own children if they are homosexuals. It is a horrible thing. In my land all are welcome at the table of Issa. The blood of Issa is a powerful thing. We know that. The edited word of God can be used for hate and is. Over the next few days I will command my astral body into the dreams of all of you so that you may be opened. I look forward to our souls having intercourse. Do not fear. I am true and Issa is real. Praise to Issa of Isreal who is the living God and the highest buddha. Fear not for Lobsang comes with his message. Love in Issa to all from Lobsang of Lhasa.
March 6, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Leigh
Lobsang, you cannot visit us in our dreams because the power of the Shed Blood of Jesus Christ id more powerful than your demons. We have the Armor of Light, the Armor of Righteousness to protect us.
I am truely sorry that you are so deceived, I will pray that the Holy spirit will remove the scales from your eyes{all three} and the demons in you be bound in chains of fire and darkness and reserved to the fiery pit until the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.
March 6, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Lobsang
You see. Lobsang only wants to do good and you call me evil and with demons. I operate with the shed blood of Jesus who is Issa. You have fear and pain. I am so sorry. I will pray and project myself into your heart and heal your suffering. There is much hate in America by christians because they know not the whole truth of Issa. Because you know not the whole truth your armour is rusted and weak. Your armour protects from evil. Lobsang is not evil and can float right through. Issa loved and hated all churches except one which he only loved. I am of that church. The church of love. I promise I will come to you all in your dreams. I just want to help.
March 7, 2008 at 7:25 am
Leigh
Lobsang, you cannot and will not project yourself into my dreams. Firstly I am protected by the power of the Lord Jesus Christ, not your christ. My Armor is not rusty and weak, I stand against the hosts of wicked demons on a daily basis. Your issa is a New Age occultic christ., not the Christ of the Christian.
2 Corinthians 11:3-4 says But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
As Christians we are the Bride of Christ and He will come for us and take us to Glory for Eternity.
We continue to bind the evil spirits operating through your third eye, so that you may know the true Christ and His Love towards you. May you have your eyes open to Satan’s deceptions.
March 7, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Lobsang
I have no evil spirits in my third eye. Jesus had a powerful third eye. There is nothing wrong with the third eye. Issa has spoken to me and has a message for you. He says he appreciates your worship but you still have hate in your hearts and he is displeased. He says that your auras are gray when they should be rainbow colored. He told me to tell you that “your children are full of lusts” I am not sure what he meant by that as it is a message for you. He told me that one of you must go to the doctor for your blood pressure. I tried to use my eye to see who but the vision is obstructed by a dark shadow. He also told me to send you a purple light from my third I to all of you and he said that you will dream of the cave of symbols. I am not sure what that is. He is also displeased in some of your lack of submission to your husbands authority. I also see a bad gallbladder with my eye and I will use the purple light of Issa to try and fix. Issa also has shown me a child on a beach with a terrible storm and the child is too close to the water. Along with this vision I see a car with an unlatched satety belt. Please buckle your children in. When Issa told me these things he was shedding tears of blood and when the blood hit the ground flowers grew. It made me sad to see Issa crying. Lobsang will keep coming to you people and you will feel the power. Issa says you need a sign. I will try in obediance to Issa.
March 7, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Mary
“Lobsang will keep coming to you people and you will feel the power”
Lobsang,
Issa is an angel of light who is really a demon in disguise. No thank you, no one here is interested in Issa-only Jesus Christ who came to destroy the work of the devil. Find a Bible and read it.
March 7, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Kim
Lobsang,
You really have nothing to offer us who walk with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ who came to us in the flesh, is the love, the power and the glory. What you are receiving is not from God, it is from the demon world. What you intend to send us will not work.
You said you will heal our suffering, pain and fear. We do not operate in such things. We have joy in the Lord Jesus Christ. The purple light will not penetrate our shield of faith. It protects us from the fiery arrows and the lies of the enemy.
We have a sign. The sign of the Cross.
March 7, 2008 at 7:41 pm
Leigh
Mary you said it. The only reason we are interested in Lobsang is to see him delivered from his demons and becoming a child of the Living God, the Lord Jesus Christ.
We continue to stand against all your power and bind them in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ who said ” whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven”. Matthew 16:19.
Your vision has been obstructed by the Light of Christ. You cannot approach us as we are children of the Light not of the darkness. You believe all the lies of your demons, you know nothing about us.
Jesus Christ, the Son of God and God the Son is shedding tears for you as you will not believe in Him. You believe in the devil who is an angel of light.So be it. We hand you over to the Devil so that your soul may be saved.
March 7, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Lobsang
Lobsang wants to have spiritual intercourse with you all. My spirit and yours under the light of Issa. I operate in the blood of Issa. That shed blood is my power source. Many years ago animals were sacraficed in the old temples but then a higher sacrafice was made. God sacraficed His own flesh for us all. That flesh was Issa who hung on the cross and rose from the dead after 3 days. When the news of Issa’s death came to the temples in my land there was great sadness. But then when they found out he was alive there was rejoicing in the monastaries. My third eye is annointed with the lamb’s blood of Issa. My powers are fueled by the blood. I am sad that you do not know the full glory of Issa. But I am sure that when you die your spirit will recognize His eyes. That is all that matters. Issa taught us that we could do what he could. That is why I am here to help. I see gray aura and want rainbow. I see hidden pain and want coolness. I see anger and want forgiveness. I see a stone in a heart and want a flower. Yes, Lobsang moves in the high holy annointed blood of Issa. Lobsang is a priest that has authority over all principalities of darkness. The authority comes from the shed blood of the lamb who is Issa. I know I am here for a reason and you need my help. I am not sure exactly but Issa will reveal. I fear darkness is coming for you people and Lobsang is here as a representative from Issa to help to assist you in your spiritual attack. I am very worried about you all. I am here to help. Iif you feel my spirit body trying to enter yours please do not resist and remember I come from Issa. Let the soft violet light warm your heart and dance over you and through you. Feel the intensity of our union. You will see that it will feel so good. I will not give up my fight to have union with all of you. This intercourse will heal you and Issa will be pleased with me. All I want to do is please Issa. Expect me and I will not give up on you. I say this in the name of Issa.
March 8, 2008 at 4:19 am
cheryl
I think Lobsang is pulling your chains, guys. Ignore him, pray for him, and he will stop this nonsense.
March 8, 2008 at 5:21 am
Leigh
It is time to stop this dialogue with Lobsang. As it says in the Word, “shake the dust from our feet”.
No more discussion Lobsang we turn you over to the Sovreignity of the Lord Jesus Christ.
We will hope you see the difference between an angel of light and the Light of the World, the Lord Jesus Christ.
March 8, 2008 at 6:49 am
Mary
Cheryl and Leigh,
I think you are both right.
March 8, 2008 at 11:24 am
Lobsang
Lobsang is sad. What is pulling chains? Lobsang is crying. Lobsang is very upset. Lobsang will pray for your souls.
March 8, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Shana
Psalms 82:6 I believe, says that we are gods. I know that it isn’t usually in the concordance, (probably because it is too empowering) but the good book does say it. Oh and is there anyway you can speak to someone on here, knowledge is power, i just want to say, thanks for your post. I really needed that after reading this. I think that people put God, Creator in their own box, it works fine for them, but I think God knows more than they think, If ‘he’ knew everything before he created it, then he created man to sin purposely and then threw them in hell for creating what he knew would happen, which wouldn’t have happened if he created it. So much for free will, right. From what I read, Jesus came to put an end to religion, not create one. Why then would he say call noone good but my father, why not say my father and I? But people are so creative when they come up with an answer that I’m sure it will be very interesting.
March 8, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Lori
Hi Shana, Hi encourage you to read the whole chapter of Psalms 82, will make it easy. I’m using this site because I like the way you can click on the word in question and see the Hebrew meaning from the Strongs concordance. After reading the Psalm you notice the verse you were referencing uses a small “g” and not a capital “God”.
http://www.apostolic-churches.net/bible/strongs/psalms_82.shtml
The Lord loves us so much and wanted to give us a “choice” to love Him or reject Him. Yes He must of knew man would sin and that is “our” choice.
Blessings in the LORD JESUS CHRIST!