Contemplative Spirituality – A belief system that uses ancient mystical practices to induce altered states of consciousness (the silence), and is rooted in mysticism and the occult, but often is wrapped in Christian terminology. The premise of Contemplative Spirituality is Pantheistic (God is All) and Panentheistic (God is in All). – Lighthouse Trails Research
YOGA/MEDITATION
I have already written about Yoga in “Is Yoga Occult?”. Well it is and here’s why. Yoga is based on Hinduism no matter what others may say. It’s main goal is ‘union” with Brahman a Hindu god. The names of the asansas (positions) are Hindu goddesses and were named as worship to them. The positions that one holds, were developed to force the Kundalini Power up the spine through the Chakras (wheels) with the ultimate goal of reaching the Crown Chakra. This causes an “enlightenment”. I have read that few ever are able to reach this final state, but in the process you are involving yourself in Hinduism. There are two dangerous aspects.
Meditation, used in many other practices other than Yoga, empties your mind of thought. What happens when you meditate is that you alter your consciousness. Many religions worldwide use meditation as a tool for spiritual growth and now it is being advertised today in the West as a form of relaxation.
Kundalini Yoga. Serpent Power. I wonder how many Yoga teachers bring to their students attention, that Kundalini translates into Serpent Power. In “Is Yoga Occult?” I quoted the many manifestations that can occur. I was criticized for using the extreme manifestations but the words that people have been using in their search engines to find my blog, are….demons, occult, insanity, serpent power, etc. I found that I could not downplay the worst that could happen, just as a drug company would not leave out the extreme side effects of a medication, (ha… sorry …bad example).
Warning: Yoga is not for Christians. It will initiate you into a worldview and practices that may separate you from Christ.
CONTEMPLATIVE PRAYER
CP is just a step beyond meditation. Basically it is repeating a biblical phrase till you become “Still”. Even though it is a biblical phrase it still becomes a “mantra” because when a phrase is repeated over and over again it becomes meaningless suspending you into an altered state of consciousness. Eastern pagan religions such as Buddhism and Hinduism have always used mystical meditation. Buddhist call this state Nirvana, New Agers call it unity with the universe or oneness with God, Christians call it contemplative prayer.
Other names that may be used for CP is centering prayer, listening prayer, breath prayer, or prayer of the heart. But it is all the same, part of the mystical movement called Contemplative Spirituality.
Here is a list of those who promote CP. Alice Bailey…Jack Canfield…Richard Foster…Matthew Fox…Barbara Hubbard Marx…Brian Mclaren…Thomas Merton…Henri Nouwen…Robert Schuller…Marianne Williamson…Bill Hybels…David Jeremiah…Max Lucado…Eugene Peterson…Michael W. Smith…Watchman Nee
This list is far from complete. Two that surprised me were David Jeremiah and Michael W. Smith. I used to watch David Jeremiah on TBN ( I never watch TBN anymore) and I used to listen to Michael W. Smith all the time. But I found out Smith is a promoter of Brennan Manning’s book “Above All” which advocates CP . Now I have to toss the CD’s I have because now I can hear how hypnotic some of his songs are and to stay true to the findings of my research, have to abandon this artist.
I like what Ray Yungen has to say about CP, in his book, “A Time of Departing: How a universal spirituality is changing the face of Christianity”. (a necessary read for every Christian)
“The premise is that God can never be really known in a conventional non-mystical way. Therefore the mind has to be shut-down, turned-off so one can enter the cloud of unknowing where the presence of God awaits. The practitioners of this method believe if the sacreds words are Christian, you will get Christ–it is simple a matter of intent. Contemplative Prayer may sound exotic and appealing, but it is Biblically groundless.” (pg39)
Mat: 6:7 “But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do…”
Warning: If a church leader or anyone recommends anything that resembles meditation with repetitions, do not do it!
CHANNELING
Have you heard of spirit guides? Well, this is another bonus of CP and channeling. While you are repeating your biblical phrase (chanting) someone may talk back to you. This is the case of Barbara Hubbard Marx, one of most well-known NewAgers who heard an “inner voice”. This inner voice Of Marx’s actually dictated a “new” book of Revelation.
Here are a few quotes from her “inner voice”:
“Behold, I am writing anew, through scribes on Earth who are willing to listen to me again with new ears, in the light of the present crises on planet Earth” (p.265)
“I did not suffer on the cross and rise again on the third day to show you what i could do, but what you can do. Yours is the power. Yours is the glory. That is my message to you.” (p.100)
“I did not intend for you to deify me, but to deify yourselves as being at the same stage of evolution as I am.” (p.231)
(Quotes taken from Warren Smith’s—Reinventing Jesus Christ)
Obviously these quotes show that Marx’s “Christ” is a false Christ, a spirit merely masquerading. Those who get involved with these New Age techniques become deceived because the experiences seem to be real, pure, and uplifting. This new gospel is nothing but deceit and rubbish.
J.Z. Knight is a channeler of the 35,000 year old warrior Ramtha here in my home state of Washington. A quick look at Ramtha’s web site is pretty revealing and predictably follows the New Age mantras.
Ramtha has “The School of Enlightenment, the School of Ancient Wisdom”. His four cornerstone philosophy is:
You are God. (no surprise here)
To make known the unknown.
The concept that consciousness and energy create the nature of reality.
The challenge to conquer yourself.
These are the same New Age goals you will collectively find in all New Age definitions. The same glorification of self, the desire to learn the esoteric unknown, and that an altered consciousness is the way to these truths.
Christian’s should not involve themselves in any practice that eliminates Jesus Christ, makes oneself a God, and searches for unknown truths outside of scripture.
Warning: Deut 18:10-12
“Let no one be found….who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchdraft, or cast spells, or who is a medium or spiritualist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord…” (NIV)
VISUALIZATION
I have read so much about visualization the last couple of weeks that my eyes are all glazed over. This being the case, I have decided to use a summary from Brian Flynn’s “Running Against the Wind”.
Creative Visualization is the practice of creating mental images for the purpose of self-improvement or personal gain. The underlying belief is that if someone can ceate a mental picture of a desired outcome…let’s say more confidence in social and business settings, or a physical healing…then that outcome can be achieved by mentally picturing it into existence. Here again is the underlying philosophy that every human being has a higher self or the God within who can, like God, virtually speak things into existence.
Coupled with the practice of creative visualization is the use of spirit guides. According to Shakti Gawain, creative visualization can easily introduce the practitioner to “spirit guides, the like of which would be thrilled to meet us.”
Guided Imagery is in the same category as creative visualization. Some guided imagery programs actually suggest meeting a being in your mind to assist you. This is dangerous because it opens the door to spirits that are not of God. Sadly countless Christians have jumped into this trend by creating their own version of guided imagery where they suggest meeting Jesus to act as a guide. This is problematic in that it creates a false belief that you are actually meeting and talking with Jesus in a mystical sense. There is no scriptual support that God chooses to communicate with us in this way.
This summary truly reminds me of all aspects of meditation and yoga. The deification of self, the necessity for the altered state of consciousness, the desire for power, the possibility of contacting the spirit world and the deception that can follow by thinking this contact is godly.
This is just another New Age occult practice that is spreading from the secular world to the church. It suggests that we are divine and can create our own reality when we should be bowing to Jesus, seeking Him only and doing his will.
Do not look inside yourself, to try to visualize an inner “Jesus”. The real Jesus is found in the words of the Bible.
kim
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July 4, 2007 at 11:41 pm
kclick
Good work.
Keep’em coming!
July 5, 2007 at 5:17 am
Kim
Thanks, i’m trying….
August 18, 2007 at 3:08 am
John Dennis
Good blog. Have you ever seen “Thieves’ Marketing” on Yahoo and other leading engines? It’s enough to give Pastor David Jeremiah, whom you mentioned, a bunch of ulcers! What’s gonna happen next? John
December 31, 2007 at 4:58 am
Lee
I’m not sure exactly where to post this; so, I’m putting it here. This afternoon while listening to some music I came across this in the liner notes of one of my LPs (yes vinyl):
“This music comes directly from the essence of the Lord’s Being. I am eternally grateful and will always be indebted to the Sovereign, Supreme One, who is Lord of Lords, God of Gods, Lover of lovers, the Creator and Destroyer of Worlds; the Phantom in the night, who is more elusive than the wind; The One who hides behind the sunlight by day, is the highest bliss, the highest ecstasy, the One whose face is heavenly to look at, whose smile will melt the heart of a rock, the One whose embrace is so loving and the bliss from it so extreme, the human body can in no way withstand this, even the soul within can hardly bear it; the One who
Death shrinks away from at the sight of, the Mysterious One, who is everywhere, at all places at all times; the One who never sleeps, who follows me wherever I go, is my mother, my father and child, my Lord, my All.”
Now, to the seasoned Christian this is obviously not Jehovah God; but, it’s easy to see how others could be confused. The quote above comes from the description of the title-track to the 1972 LP of Alice Coltrane (2nd wife and widow of John Coltrane) titled Lord of Lords. Other quotes are more obviously show her beliefs:
“…Mother Kundalini Shakti pushes inside me.”
“The name of Sri Rama has recently been bestowed upon Ohnedaruth John Coltrane, as a result of his latest spiritual attainments on his evolutionary Path…” (John Coltrane died in 1967.)
“On March 20, 1972, I was blessed with the good fortune of receiving a visitation from the great master composer, Mr. Igor Stravinsky, whom I had never met before in life.” (Stravinsky died in April of ’71.)
The sad thing is that there are many confused folks out there in our Christian churches who are (assumingly) unwittingly subscribing to Eastern mysticism using the methods spoken of in this particular blog series. This is especially true as Christian lingo has been adopted in describing some of these activities.
So, this LP, among others, goes in my growing pile of ones to be disposed of. Which leads me to a question I posed on SOJ a while back: at what point do we determine which music is no longer safe for the Christian? This particular record has no lyrics (it’s instrumental jazz); but, the liner note content puts it in the “no-no” pile. Perhaps this best belongs in another post somewhere…
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December 31, 2007 at 8:57 am
Kim
Lee,
Do you actually still plays LP’s? I mean do you have a turntable? Ha…that sounds weird….turntable….but i suppose some day people will be laughing at cd’s when music is injected into the brain by laser!
The music issue is tough….I found christian contemporary only a couple of years ago. I have everything by Michael W. Smith. But i don’t listen to him anymore because he promotes centering prayer. Now i can hear how hypnotic his songs are. Esp. the worship cd’s. Then i went to Hillsong…i love Hillsongs slower worship songs. But as with secular music i was singing along, bouncing in the car, ( yes, i am 54).
You know how you start singing like you are the performer and then start glorifying yourself…? Yes, i know you guys out there do it too……NO? …only i do that? now i am embarrassed. I am getting goofy..sorry.
Right now i don’t watch TV, i don’t go to the movies, I have dropped most of my hobbies, and i am not really listening to anything right now. At church we still sing hymns…..so i am trying to be content with that right now.
Is it wrong to listen with something with a beat? It really does affect the body. I would like to hear the music that was played in biblical times. I guess if you let the music alter your thinking it is bad. Once i heard someone say if you tap your toe it is okay but if you move your hips it is not.
But i think a lot of people are struggling with this.
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December 31, 2007 at 9:29 am
Lee
Yes I actually do have a turntable! And, I’m sure that my LPs will outlast my cd collection — assuming I live long enough to witness the gradual physical degradation of the cd disks themselves. While the digital bits should in theory last forever, it’s reported that the storage medium (compact disks) will not.
I can say emphatically that music used to be an idol for me; so, it’s an issue I’ve been struggling with for awhile now. It was my chosen form of escapism rather than the more physically destructive chemical or alcohol route. This was all BC; but, after my conversion I still struggled with it. I’m in my mid-40s and have all kinds of music: jazz (all types), pop, alt rock/punk, hard rock, psychedelic, folk, blues, classical — you name it — with a collection in the 1000s.
Obviously, some of the lyrics are not right for the Christian; but, again, where does one draw the line? If I know that a particular artist is a practicing Hindu, Buddhist, satanist, etc. and is (or even is not) hostile to the Christian, do I boycott the music even if there’s no lyrics or antichristian notes on the sleeve?
I also rarely watch TV or go to the movies; and, I hardly listen to music anymore at home. Oh, and I NEVER would sing or play air guitar (or any other instrument) 😉
I do still occasionally listen to music with a beat to work out to at home. Is this bad? I dunno… I think it depends on the lyric content. What does it really mean to be “in the world, but not of the world?” Again, I’m not sure…
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January 18, 2008 at 3:31 am
The Enlightened Christian
With Regards to what was spoken about in the first part of this post. Enlightenment is merely unlocking the full potential of the human mind. To beleive Jesus would be against bettering one self is completely absurd. Meditation is spoken about within the bible. One should not be so judgemental on things they know absolutely nothing about.
With regards to buhddist being pagen. The Dahli Lama has won the nobel peace prize numerous times. You worship your king nailed to a cross. Jesus may have died for your sins, but the crucifixion was not ultimately nessasary in order to achieve it. Jesus was a gift for all mankind, not something to be nailed up. His message is what is important. When he rose from the grave, he had defeated death. The rest of the world calls this transcendence.
Beleiving different does not make one evil, its only seeing things from a different point of view. Only the devine can judge another religion. Are you God??? Maybe your should open your mind and accept the fact that you dont truly know the truth just as I have. When it comes to matters of the devine we are all in the dark. All beleifs are based on love and compassion for one another. Unity is the goal in mind, not downing one belief just so you feel right. Jesus loved, Buhddah loved, Allah loved. Its about Love, not being right. Love your fellow man, despite his beleif. You have just as great a chance of being right as he does.
January 18, 2008 at 4:03 am
Lee
Meditation is spoken about within the bible.
Yes, this is true but the meaning is not same as eastern meditation. To “meditate on the Word of God” is to read and reflect on passages read NOT to repeat passages over and over as in a mantra. There’s a big difference.
Only the devine [sic] can judge another religion.
According to the gospel of John, Jesus is the Word made flesh; so, the Bible is Jesus. Also, according to the gospel of John, God and Jesus are the same entity (He who has seen me has seen the Father.) So, then given that Jesus IS God and Jesus IS the Word (Bible), then the divine is the Word. The Bible says, “Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”‘ (John 14:6) The bible itself judges all other religions.
Unity is the goal in mind, not downing one belief just so you feel right.
Unity may be your goal; but, it is not the goal of Jesus:
33But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.
34″Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
” ‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law -…” (Matthew 10:33-35)
These are Jesus’ own words.
January 18, 2008 at 4:10 am
Kim
Meditation is in the Bible. But it is not referring to a practice that empties the mind. The Christian is warned not to do this in the Bible. Meditation in the bible is referring to thinking or pondering over its meaning.
The two are very different.
I am certainly not God, not am i divine. I am a sinner who needs the forgiveness of Jesus Christ who shed His blood for you and for me.
I believe this to be the ultimate truth.
Lee beat me to John 14:6.
January 18, 2008 at 4:19 am
Mary
How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked,
Nor stand in the path of sinners,
Nor sit in the seat of scoffers!
2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
And in His law he meditates day and night.
(psalm 1)
As Lee and Kim have mentioned above meditation according to the Bible is waaaayyyy different then the meditation as practiced in eastern meditation.
We may not know everything. We don’t claim to. But the Bible is the authority. It is the truth. Jesus is truth.
July 23, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Quant
what are you on about? Looks like you don’t even understand Jesus. How can you comments on Yoga. Please read more before misleading people.
July 23, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Kim
quant.devil@*****.com
We have used scripture so as to NOT mislead people. What has been said here that makes you think Jesus is misunderstood?
May 10, 2009 at 11:49 am
holy007lotus
What makes you think yoga is not suited for ALL the christians.. what is a chrisitian, hindu or bhuddhist..
Open your eyes my friend… open your eyes..
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May 10, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Kim
Hi…..
Well the Buddhist worships Buddha and the Hindu…they want to unite with the Hindu God Brahman. Christians are told that they cannot worship other Gods.
Deuteronomy 11:16-17
“Be careful, or you will be enticed to turn away and worship other gods and bow down to them. Then the Lord’s anger will burn against you…”
The Bible says that there is no other god than the God of Israel.
Deuteromony 4:39
“Acknowledge and take to heart this day that the Lord is God in heaven above and on the earth below. There is no other.”
Yoga has the sun salutation…here is what the Word of God says about this.
Deuteronomy 4:19
And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars–all the heavenly array–do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven.”
Here is a warning in Revelation 3.
“Wake up!….Remember therefore, what you have received and heard, obey it, and repent….”
I have opened my eyes and they are fixed on Jesus.
Hebrews 12:2
“Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.”
Jesus is at the right hand of the Father, and He has promised He is coming again, and many think it will be soon. I want to be ready…and what I am doing in preparation, is Bible study and prayer.
May 10, 2009 at 2:51 pm
cheryl U.
I haven’t read all of this thread. So what I am going to say may very well have already been mentioned.
Since the very word yoga means “to yoke” or “to join, one has to wonder what he is being yoked or joined with in doing yoga. God has already told us in His Word, the Bible, how we are to be joined with Him, and it is not through yoga! He also says that to worship Him, we must worship in spirit and in truth.
If yoga is not the way He has told us to be joined with Him, and it is not the truth of His Word, how can it be right for a Christian to participate in it?
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Listening Prayer has found a place in my church!
They don’t want to hear the truth.
The more I research the deeper into the dark this listening prayer goes.
Bryn
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October 23, 2015 at 1:37 am
Ja'Chquise
This was very insightful and actually just what I needed. But now knowing these things I have a major concern and I would love to share it with you and maybe you could help shed some light on it.
October 23, 2015 at 7:49 am
Kim
Hi there nice to meet you….Yes please share any concerns you have. Sharing here helps others who also need answers….or you can email me at the contact information.